Everyones an expert

dabandit · #1 12-03-2008, 08:22 PM

I was over on the bc aquaria web site,there was a guy asking how to get rid of algae/cyano. Two seperate people told him there wasnt enough Phosphate/nitrate in his water and thats where his problem is,their solution add more fish lol. What causes someone to offer an opinion on something they know nothing about I wonder? Poor guy was also doing tap water changes to try to get rid of it based on someones advice. Crazy,I dont think he believed me that the detrious was the cause of his problem not the solution.

Trigger Man · #2 12-03-2008, 08:49 PM

I guess it's why its called personal advise. In the end ones opinions will play into what that person writes. Those people that said that there was not enough phosphate/nitrate may have added another fish to their tank when they had the problem and had their algae go away. (in reality the changes probably occured because they could have a algae eating fish, the new fish could have been helping to aleviate over feeding that was occuring and hence leftover food no longer staying in the tank, or it could have even been the end of the cycling of the tank).
I like seeing many opinions before I make a decison so that hopefully the majority is right.
Just think, if the guy does not believe you now maybe he will later, when he does what the others told him and his problem gets worse.

mark · #3 12-03-2008, 09:51 PM

That's the cautions of the internet (and other media), it's just opinions. Some are based on experience, others from who knows where.

As for cyano, can't forget about flow and it's effects.

trilinearmipmap · #4 12-03-2008, 10:46 PM

If it was a freshwater plant tank then the advice to supplement nitrate to get rid of cyanobacteria is 100% correct. This is just my opinion from quite a few years of running FW plant tanks, cyano (at least in FW plant tanks) can fix nitrogen in the form of dissolved N2 and therefore can out-compete plants when nitrates are low. I agree with the original poster's statement that people should not offer an opinion on something they know nothing about, we just disagree about who those people are.

dabandit · #5 12-04-2008, 01:43 AM

Ive been keeping fresh water for a loooong time allways cured cyano (green) by adding carbon. The only way I can see adding more nitrate helping would be it would increase the number of beneficial bacteria but that could take up to a full cycle. Are you not just fueling the cyano in the mean time?

I realise that there are many opinions as far as fishkeeping goes,but every piece of literature I've ever read aswell as my personal experiences say phosphate and nitrate are the cause of cyano not the cure and overstocking your tank will lead to ammonia build up and a palethera of algaes and cyano's Where are you getting this from that nitrate is a cure for cyano I'm wondering?

dabandit · #6 12-04-2008, 01:48 AM

Dude I keep fresh water planted tanks for 12 years and have scientific facts to prove me right. Show me your data,you seriouslly believe that overstocking a tank will cure cyano? better yet do you believe this is best way to go about it? Believe me if I didnt know what I was talking about I wouldnt say a damn thing.
Are you saying im wrong?

SeaHorse_Fanatic · #7 12-04-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dabandit

I was over on the bc aquaria web site,there was a guy asking how to get rid of algae/cyano. Two seperate people told him there wasnt enough Phosphate/nitrate in his water and thats where his problem is,their solution add more fish lol. What causes someone to offer an opinion on something they know nothing about I wonder? Poor guy was also doing tap water changes to try to get rid of it based on someones advice. Crazy,I dont think he believed me that the detrious was the cause of his problem not the solution.

Really? Which thread was this? I couldn't find it when I searched. The cyano threads I saw recommended the reefer needed to reduce nutrients like phosphates and were likely caused by over feeding & nutrient buildup? Please pm me the link so I can check it out.

Anthony

Samw · #8 12-04-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic

Really? Which thread was this? I couldn't find it when I searched. The cyano threads I saw recommended the reefer needed to reduce nutrients like phosphates and were likely caused by over feeding & nurtirent buildup? Please pm me the link so I can check it out.

Anthony

It was a thread about freshwater cyano; and i didn't see anyone recommending adding phosphate. Basically, I saw 2 posters mentioning that low nitrate is one possible cause of cyano. In addition, one of the 2 guys mentioned that frequent water changes (i assume with tap water) made it worse for him. Seems reasonable. BTW: both posters who suggested that low nitrates are a possible cause of cyano are also Canreefers.

SeaHorse_Fanatic · #9 12-04-2008, 10:31 AM

Yes, and dabandit, if you read the sw thread about cyano & algae, the advice there was pretty much correct, as in having to remove the excess nutrients (ie. using Phosban reactor to treat the symptom) & finding the source of those excess nutrients (to treat the cause).

http://www.bcaquaria.com/forum/showt...ighlight=cyano

Here's the thread I'm talking about.