Apex vs archon?

[sdeschutter]

So the other day my old original DA controller packed it in. I got it used off a guy last year. My fault though I got it wet...idiot. So I have been doing some reading on controllers. I really like the options that the DA Archon has especially the wireless aspect. , open interface, use on any web based device, etc. I can't really run a wire to my tank. So does the Apex have wireless option. Is there someone out there that has used both controllers? Which controller is better?

[Simons]

I have never used anything but Apex so I can't do any direct comparisons. But Neptune system requires a wireless adapter if you cannot connect directly to the unit. Kind of a pain, but once it's wired, it's wired.

It has all the same functionality of any controller, likely has more. You can buy modules to add onto the controller, that can control lights, pumps, leak detection, dosing, fluid level monitoring etc. It also has a breakout box that allows you to do thinks like, turn lights on and off when you open a cabinet door etc. It monitors all the same baseline stuff, pH, ORP, temp, Salinity, etc.

I have two and will never go without another controller, and I have not seen anything better on the market yet. It is HTML 5.0 so it will work on any browser with that base, apple, PC mobile.

[WarDog]

Connecting the Apex wirelessly is a pain. They suggest using a Netgears WNCE2001 wireless gaming adaptor. Your first hurdle is finding one in store. Online might be easier. Since I bought a new router a few months ago, I have not been able to reconnect. I just pull out the cable when I want to change any programming. I am still surprised Neptune Systems hasn't produced their own WiFi module. Apparently it's not a priority for them. I am seriously considering selling my Apex and going with the cheaper DA.

[sdeschutter]

Have either of you had any problems with your apex? Also how is the customer support and warranty? I have read that DA customer support is weak and also there warranty program.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by sdeschutter

Have either of you had any problems with your apex? Also how is the customer support and warranty? I have read that DA customer support is weak and also there warranty program.

I've had 2 issues with mine over 7 years. Support was great on both cases, and repairs were reasonable. I fully recommend Apex as the go to controller. Peer support via their forum, tons of info on RC, lots of help locally here, as most people seem to have Apex. I've hardly heard of that other one..

[sdeschutter]

The DA Archin has only been out a year. Here is some info http://www.digitalaquatics.com/archon/system/.

I have to say that the customer support and warranty concerns have me leaning towards the Neptune system.

Once the Neptune is connected to your network can you run things and monitor from a mobile device anywhere in the world?

[mrhasan]

Use powerline adapter. You have to connect the master adapter to an outlet near the router and plug in the ethernet from the router. This makes internet available throughout the whole electrical wiring network in your house. To tap out the net from another outlet, you have to plug in the slave adapter and pull out a ethernet cable from the adapter to the controller.

[WarDog]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Use powerline adapter. You have to connect the master adapter to an outlet near the router and plug in the ethernet from the router. This makes internet available throughout the whole electrical wiring network in your house. To tap out the net from another outlet, you have to plug in the slave adapter and pull out a ethernet cable from the adapter to the controller.

Those things work? I thought there would be too much electrical interference?

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by WarDog

Those things work? I thought there would be too much electrical interference?

It greatly depends upon the quality and length of the electrical cable along with the load in the circuits you are using (can work across multiple circuits). I live in a 2 bedroom apartment and works wonderfully. It either works or doesn't; no sure way to tell whether it will work or not for a particular house without testing. I hate wifi and is accustomed to using ethernet and this was the only way I could do it without running cable from one end of the house to the other. If I get apex, I will be using powerline to connect to the internet instead of dropping money on the wifi module.

[sdeschutter]

do wish Neptune would come out with a optical ATO though!

I forgot to mention that was another reason Inliked the DA Archon. It had a ATO option. Is there anyone that has had the Neptune and the Archon?