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Old 11-12-2009, 04:49 PM
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Hi, I am new to the hobby and I am planning to setup a FOWLR system at some point but still in the planning phase.

One thing that came out from some of the research I made was that some people get leaks or flood from either
their sumps or fishtanks do to different reasons (Poweroutage, siphon from main tank, not enough room in sump etc...)

I was wondering if there was a way to build the system to avoid having flood or leaks as much as possible.

For instance, does a pre drilled tank with a sump still could flood ? I tried to do research and could not find
anything to provide tips on what to do to totally avoid floods.

At some point I was even looking at something like the Red Sea Max 250 as everything is in the same tank and therefore would remove the flooding potential, but would not be suited for bigger fishes and is more a reef tank than a FOWLR.

Could you guys direct me on how this could be achieved.

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Old 11-12-2009, 05:09 PM
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In my case, I have a 180G DT with a 105G refuge, the display has 2 overflows on either side with Standpipes. What this means is that if the return pump fails, only a certain amount of water will flow out of the main tank into my refuge. With the refuge, it isn't full, maybe half, so it has more than enough room for this display tank water in that case.

Also make sure to match your return pumps with your flow, or have valves so you can adjust this. When I first got my tank, I regretted it, the first night I had water flowing over the top of the main tank on my head. NOT FUN!!! I couldn't get things matched up.

Over the next few days all was good, but one night I couldn't sleep, when I went out to check the tank, it was just starting to again flow over the top of the display. I ran, swearing and opening all valves wide open....

After that I looked into durso standpipes. I made some put them in my overflows and I can say they have been the best creation I have done to this thing. All my valves (downward and upward flow) are wide open, so no more worries about overflows, and they also quited down the noise to nothing on the overflows.

If buying a used tank, maybe have it resealed, if buying new, buy from a reputable LFS and brand. If custom made, again have it made by someone that knows what they are doing.

I hope this helps some.
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:22 PM
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One of the main reasons you have a sump is to help eliminate floods.

Your sump has to be big enough to be able to absorb the excess water in the system when the power goes off.
The amount of water to be absorbed is the excess water in the water level above the overflow and the water in the lines to and from the sump. The tank can also syphon down to the level of the inlet nozzle you can help offset the amount of syphon water by having a small hole in the nozzle that will allow air into the nozzle line to break the syphon. You have check the system from time to time to ensure that the sump is still able to absorb the excess water without overflowing into a flooded room. Both the nozzle and the air hole have a tendency to clog with algae over a period of time.

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keep the aquarium outside
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Old 11-13-2009, 03:16 AM
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keep the aquarium outside

I was just gonna say ...dont get into fish....... I could tell you about the time I first filled up my 110g to leak test it with the garden hose(I was by myself that day)....lets just say that, a garden hose under pressure coming loose from where you had it wedged, when you go outside to turn it off is a baaaaaad thing
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I have flooded my basement suite twice, both times I was working out of town.
I have a very patient girlfriend.
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Old 11-13-2009, 02:28 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.

By the way you guys have very nice setups.

We had a flood two years ago in the middle of July during a thunderstorm and our sump pump in the basement decided to stop working that day. My wife and I were both at work and 4 inches of water across the basement cost nearly 35K to the insurance to repair and change a lot of the furnitures. That's why I want to try to avoid any more floods as much as possible.
I am sure there are lot of people that have had aquariums for years and never had floods.
I guess I just want prevent rather than fix things that could have been avoided right from the start.

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