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02-05-2004, 10:26 PM
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Screwed By Westjet
My inlaws picked up a bunch of crabs and snails for me at J&L's last night and hopped a flight from Abbostsford out to Edmonon this morning. When they checked in they were not allowed to bring the livestock. Can't bring anything packed in water was the problem. So for 66 bucks ELS marketing shipped it for them. Here is the clincher. ELS Marketing is Westjet. And they flew the frickin box on a westjet flight!!!! Oh, except they waited for the next flight so I can drive an hour each way to go get the snails. To make it even worse, my inlaws tickets were only 49 bucks.
If I had J&L ship them I think it would have cost 45 bucks for shipping. Gotta go to the airport, Al 
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02-05-2004, 10:28 PM
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Ouch that's kinda harsh. What if you called to refuse the shipment and had J&L reship, wouldn't the bill fall on Westjet?
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02-05-2004, 10:31 PM
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Kind of tough to do when they are stepping on a flight in 30 mins. My father in law asked the girl to keep thm at 78 degrees and check the salinity until they got back next week. SHe was not into that. It was either pay the shipping or toss the box. There was about 100 bucks worth of livestock. All said and done I still saved some coin.
Cheers, Al
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02-05-2004, 10:33 PM
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I called up Westjet before a flight once and they told me the same thing- i.e. no livestock in water in the cabin. I don't know why, so once or twice I have snuck it through anyway. The downside is that they get their X-ray taken.
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02-05-2004, 11:01 PM
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FYI about shipping livestock.
There is a huge difference about trying to ship something in the cabin of an aircraft as opposed to the belly. If something is shipping in cargo the appropriate precautions must be taken to ensure that no water could escape and damage the aircraft. This is taken care of by the LFS that ships livestock on a daily basis. The shipper takes responsibility that the package will not damage the aircraft, if it does the shipper can be held responsible. If you try to sneak some live stock in the cabin of the aircraft and it leaks out you run a much higher risk of damaging something because the cabin of an aircraft is not sealed in the same manor as the belly would be. Once again the individual runs the risk of being held responsible for any costs associated to the damage. ELS is not part of WestJet, it is simply a Marketing company hired by WestJet to sell cargo. If your going to ship livestock from J&L or someone else let them take care of shipping is for you, you'll run into allot fewer problems. It's not so much screwed by WestJet but screwed by yourself for not doing your homework.
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02-06-2004, 01:07 AM
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 Hmmmmm that seem weird? So what if a person is bringing live lobster say from east coast to the west coast?So it has to go into the cargo part of the plane?I've taken live lobster from New Brunswick to Ontario in the cabin of the plane many of times before.And never once had to put it into the cargo part.And all the boxes went throught the xray machine.This was all on Air Canada flights.Maybe its just different for different Companies? Anyway seems very weird to me. 
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02-06-2004, 01:13 AM
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Ya know, I never even thought about water bring a problem on the plane. The last time I went to Calgary I flew AirCanada. Leaving Nanaimo the security people wanted to know what I had in the bags and I believe the response was "cool". One guy even had a SW tank so we chatted for a bit while he went through my stuff. On the way home, the Calgary security people weren't even interested in my bags although one girl wanted to look at my tiny bangaii cardinalfish that I got from EmilyB.
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02-06-2004, 01:37 AM
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When you bring lobster in a plane they are not pack in water.
Even when you buy the live ones it's simple an ice/gel pack in the bottom of the wax lined double packed box. I've brought many lobsters back from Moncton in the past.
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02-06-2004, 02:12 AM
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Yes, I asked on Air Canada if they could stow my bag upright somewhere, because it had bags of fish and coral with water in it. She said, get the stewardess to throw it up top for you...  At least, I didn't do that, I relied on my packing and stowed it under the seat..
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