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			 Well I'm getting back into the Reef side again...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			    I TOLD HERE"NO" "LET'S DO IT"...  Well THat was it I finally got here to bite in salt water.  It must of been the Supper at the fancey resturant that got her going.  Due to I asked here during supper, "Why did tyou not like the tank. She told me I went to fast.     SO thjis weekend I told her I wouldn't go fast , I would go slow.. :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: Will keeep ya informed... MIKE 
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			 On a somewhat related note: don't waste your money on a Bowflex machine.  If you intend to do resistance training in your home get a set of free weights, adjustable bench, and maybe a rack, etc.  You'll be cursing the Bowflex in no time due to its lack of variety, minimal resistance, and so forth. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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			  I have all ready had them Being in the Military i have a huge gym i train at on base. So i take it you work out? How long have you been working out for?I' ve been working out since 96. I got into it when i first went to bosnia in 94. It's hard working out I find being in the Army and even during hockey season. very demanding and exhausting. ya but, I have had the racks Barbells, dumbells ,have tried all .I thought that the bow flex was good, i was looking at the gold plus I think it is. any way thanks for the input. much apprecaited mike 
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			 I've been weight training for almost 10 years now.  I'm finishing up my degree in kinesiology and will be starting my masters degree in physiotherapy so it's not as if I'm blowing smoke out of my *posterior* when I suggest you stay away from the Bowflex.  One of the major problems with the Bowflex is that whatever bar you're using is in some way attached to a cable in order to supply resistance via the stupid rubber bands.  This leads to huge problems when trying to vary your hand position on movements such as a flat bench press.  Furthermore, without getting too in depth regarding motor unit recruitment and training of the nervous system, the use of free weights translates in to far greater functional strength due to the recruitment of the multitude of agonist/stabilizer muscles needed when using dumbbells or even a barbell for that matter (when compared to a rubber band machine). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			If your goal is to train for strength you would be well served if you worked primarilly on major compound movements such as squats, bench press, military press, dead lifts, pull-ups, cleans, etc. Good luck doing effective cleans, squats, dead lifts, etc on a Bowflex. Even if you're intending to focus on bodybuilding, the majority of your hypertrophy comes from handling heavy weights during compound movements as opposed to cutesy things like high cable biceps curls that you see so many morons in the gym doing ad nauseum (PS sorry if I've offended any of you morons who do high cable biceps curls ad nauseum   ).
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 Only when some joker ties a rope to my beer :shock: Steve 
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	 *everything said above is just my opinion, and may or may not reflect the views of this BBS, its Operators, and its Members. If cornered on any “opinion” I post I will totally deny having ever said this in a Court of Law…Unless I am the right one*Some strive to be perfect.... I just strive.  | 
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			 THanks Andrew for the advice much apprecaited 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			mike a soon to be reefer again 
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	180 starfire front, LPS, millipora Doesn't matter how much you have been reading until you take the plunge. You don't know as much as you think.  |