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			 Other than the obvious (Vortec being 1/2 on the outside of the tank), what are the important considerations between the two powerheads?  I was planning on an MP10, but the Tunze controllable powerheads will connect directly to our controller.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	I don't remember what controllable Tunze I was looking at, but it was comparable in price to the MP10. Can anyone comment on the design of each in relation to critter losses?  | 
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			 I like them both for what they each have to offer..... The vortech moves massive amounts of water, has its own controller, connects wirelessly with other devices, and has a low profile... Downsides would be, some people find them noisy, the wet sides are a touch fragile, you are limited as to where you can mount them(unless you get creative) and you can't point them.... The tunzes move a decent amount of water, can be mounted anywhere, are pointable and are bulletproof.....downside would be the profile inside the aquarium... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I use them both 
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	260g mixed reef, 105g sump, water blaster 7000 return, Bubble King SM 300 skimmer, Aqua Controller Jr, 4 radions, 3 Tunze 6055s,1 tunze 6065, 2 Vortech MP40s, Vortech MP20, Tunze ATO, GHL SA2 doser, 2 TLF reactors (1 carbon, 1 rowa). http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50034 . Tank Video here http://www.vimeo.com/2304609 and here http://www.vimeo.com/16591694  | 
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			 I had mp40's and sold them to buy 2 6105's and controller. So far I have found the Tunzes to be louder than my 40's so am thinking I might go back to them as I'm losing patience with them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	206 gal tunze centre overflow star fire front illumina 260 Loudest part of my system would be the nagging sound I hear on a regular basis about how much time and money I spend on the tank.  | 
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 vortechs are good, but i would never go back to them.  | 
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			 Mike I have cleaned thn and the are still loud. I just can't stop the vibration noise no matter what I do.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	206 gal tunze centre overflow star fire front illumina 260 Loudest part of my system would be the nagging sound I hear on a regular basis about how much time and money I spend on the tank.  | 
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			 I must say to check out the Coralife dc5800's.  I hate coralife... but these pumps are silent, dead silent.  I've had them for 6months now on a fast on/off cycle, with no problems yet.  My koralia 4's are more noisy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 I picked up two MP10s last night. Local availability is the biggest reason I chose to purchase them: my favourite LFS had two of them in stock, but not the Tunzes I was interested in. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	So far, I'm very pleased with them. I don't have them hooked up to my controller yet, though. I'm not sure if I want to hook them up via the WXM or the VDM.  | 
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			 I just found that out. Thank you! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 The pumps each have their pros and cons, it's like comparing tangarines to mandarines. Both are good but some people have a favourite based on their own experiences. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	but you cant beat the wavebox. Nothing gets your polyps moving like it does.  |