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Old 11-20-2011, 03:51 PM
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Default Water flow for SPS

I have new LED lighting and great water conditions so I have started to acquire new SPS.


I need help understanding how much water flow I should be running. Any help would be great.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:09 PM
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I would recommend at least 50X turn over.....but I have seen fantastic looking SPS tanks with turn overs as high as 80-100X

If you have a mixed tank this becomes a little more difficult getting the flow adjusted as to not blast your LPS.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:16 PM
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Wavebox! If your tank is well suited to it (somewhat long, narrow footprint) with prerably a center overlow then a wavebox is an awesome tool for water movement. Supplement with regular methods (power heads, closed loop etc) but that oscillating motion along with the entire water column moving make for a very efficient method of big water movement.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:22 PM
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A number is hard to give since if you point all your powerheads at a rock then 200x turnover won't be enough. But with the right flow patterns you can do it with 20x. chris's 50x recomendation is a good one, and if you set up your powerheads well you can get very good flow with that much.

I have 20x from my return, and another 40x from powerheads. I have some spots with too much flow, and some that are nice and low for LPS. I'm using kora powerheads, so they're pretty directional, i could replace 2 with a single MP40, and get the same or better results with much less flow.

Try to set it up with a plan for movement, I have my return flowing across the open water in the top of the tank in a coast to coast style, while my powerheads create turbulent flow along the way, by pushing into the coast to coast flow from the bottom up. This is giving great waste removal since everything gets kicked up into my reurn flow, and gives the corals a random flow pattern without buying expensive powerheads. Buying a good powerhead is worth the money and i plan on getting some soon, once my fish budget has built up some more room :P.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:38 PM
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Great advice all around. Sadly I haven't worried too much about so I am a bit clueless. I just bought an MP10w... I have a 36" 75 g tank so it's tall.

When you say 50x. What do you mean? Sorry
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When someone refers to a turnover rate (eg. 50x) they mean 50 times the DT volume, so for your 75g tank you would be shooting for 3750gph total flow rate (including return pump, powerheads etc.)
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think "tidal wave"......50xs+ for sure.....i run close to 100xs
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Old 11-20-2011, 07:06 PM
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Great advice all around. Sadly I haven't worried too I just bought an MP10w... I have a 36" 75 g tank so it's tall.

That's a fantastic power head......how ever with a 75 gal I would have went with a little larger one. That being said you could use a few Evo's to make up the extra flow and or add another one latter on.
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I also run over 100's x
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Old 11-20-2011, 07:42 PM
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Ok, so with my 75g and let's say 25 g displacement for rock and livestock I have approx 50 gal. So to get to 50x I need to get to 2500gph? I just want to make sure before investing in power heads
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