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Old 05-02-2009, 05:35 PM
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I am still in the planning stages but I will be upgrading to a 180. In looking at the different flow options I am having trouble deciding between a Vortech MP40 or a Closed Loop with a Oceans Motions Super Squirt. Is either of these clearly better than the other or is it a matter of preference?

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Old 05-02-2009, 06:02 PM
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The large power heads are more efficient (watts vs gph) and adjustable just need to balanced off do you want them in your tank.

Take a look on OM site WaterPix forum for clean CL layouts.

btw I'm running a OM 4-way with a Dart on my 145g. Also a SS is different than a 4way

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Thanks Mark, would you say that the Vortech would move as much water as a closed loop with a QuietOne 9000. I realize that they draw less power but if I only had one would it provide enough flow?

My understanding is that the Super Squirt has the same functionality of the 4-Way just less volume, is this correct?
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A Vortex MP40 draws 28w at 3200gph. The Quiet one 9000 is 145w for 2328gph then you'll still have friction losses. Would it be enough for a 180g, seems on the low end if planning SPS. See this thread for an idea of what other people have.
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People are suggesting I get two MP40s for my 90 instead of just one, so I would think you'd need two for sure in a 180.
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People are suggesting I get two MP40s for my 90 instead of just one, so I would think you'd need two for sure in a 180.
You would need at least 2 in a 180. I have 2 in my 6' 125G and wouldn't mind another.
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Thanks Mark, would you say that the Vortech would move as much water as a closed loop with a QuietOne 9000. I realize that they draw less power but if I only had one would it provide enough flow?

My understanding is that the Super Squirt has the same functionality of the 4-Way just less volume, is this correct?
From everything I understand, that is the case. The 4 way has a capacity of 7500gph while the super squirt is 2500, but 2500 is still high for that kind of plumbing?

PS. If you decide to go with a super squirt, I have one for sale, Brand New In Box.
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I have 2 mp40w in my 60x24x24 150 gal sps tank. and i dont have them turned full bore yet.. and i have alot of flow in there.
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Do both
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Yup, I agree! That's what I'm doing.. Dart Closed Loop and a MP40w in a 187G..
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