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Old 06-22-2004, 05:31 AM
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Well I finally got around to hooking up my sump and my overflow.

I've been making up some saltwater over the past few days to fill the sump. Temp was about 1-2 deg higher than the tank, salinty was the same.

I finally turned things on for about a hour, then turned it off. (I had to leave the house, and wasn't 100% satisified things were running 100% so I figured I'd wait till I came home, before letting it run by itself).

I come home a couple hours later and things are in BAD shape.

All my corals look almost dead. Xenia is grey, and completely shrivelled up (more than they do at night time). Looks like they are completely drained. Leather coral which was a nice yellow, is a tiny peice of green. zoo's look somewhat okay.

My clowns were hiding in the rocks, where I've never seen them ever. Couldn't see my little clown goby, finally found him, in the arms of my cleaner shrimp.

My mandarin and firefish are doing completely fine (or so they seem).

I checked my water quality, and everything is good, PH 8.0. I ran to bigal's and got a AquaClear 300 Activated Carbon Insert. I put that into one of the quickfilters on my 802, and I changed the media in the other quick filter.

Just making up some water for a water change. Any idea? Only thing I can think of was that something was in the sump, but I had really cleaned it out with only hot water. I did reseal it up with silicon (I) but that was at least a month ago.
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what brand of silicone did you use?
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:08 AM
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what brand of silicone did you use?
The GE one I believe.
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:17 AM
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Did you use a silicone made for kitchen and bathrooms? Some of those have anti-mildew chemicals.
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Did you check the PH of the water in the sump before pumping it into the main tank?

What was the PH of the water in the main tank before you added the new water?

A PH of 8 is OK, but, if the water in the main tank was higher than 8, say 8.3 and you pumped in a bunch of water with a lower PH, say 7.8 from the sump, that may have dropped the PH too fast.

Even thought a PH of 8 is still good, it is the speed of the PH change that corals and fish don't like.
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:25 PM
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newguy: Yes I did. I used GE 100% Rubber Silicone (I), which I was told would be okay. I was told (II) was bad to use. Anyhoo, I just took a read on the fine print, and even (I) has the anti mildew. Crap. Even after a month I guess that may be what is effecting it.

Dale D: No I didn't. My mistake. There seems to be a bunch of factors, and I don't really know what it is. I'm going to do yet another water change today. My clowns are swimming around much better today, however the corals aren't doing anybetter. I can't find the body of the clown goby either, as I really want to get it out.

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Well, what is done is done. All you can really do now is "damage control." Massive water changes, massive skimming and running carbon is all you can really do now.
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Well, what is done is done. All you can really do now is "damage control." Massive water changes, massive skimming and running carbon is all you can really do now.
I'm wondering what I should do with the sump (which is currently off right now). Obviously take out all the water and chuck it. But what about the silicone inside? Should I rip it all out?
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Yah man, grab a couple of razor blades and rip it out is what I'd do. Then re-silicone it.

I have a lot of aquarium safe silicone if you want.

Do you need to borrow a skimmer for a few days? I have that tunze, you can take it for a bit if you want.
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Old 06-23-2004, 03:15 AM
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Could be a hundred things, GE silicon ??

Give it a day, xenia can be the most finiky beast in the world with just certain trace elements.

Further water changes could shock the corals even more.

Get a good frag and drop it into just the sump water with a little light and see how it reacts...........


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