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Old 01-14-2004, 02:06 AM
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Ok because of some inquiries to me I am going to get a price on bare HQI ballasts. what I need to know is how many people would be interested in them so if there is enuf maybe I can get them at a cheeper price.

they come with the ballast, cap and starter so you would need to make your own housing or just retro fit them into a exzisting one.

last time I ordered them they cost me about 140 + tax which was cheeper than the 150+ tax J&L wanted.

I myself need 1 more so let me know over the next couple days if you are interested in any.

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Is that a tar ballast you are looking at?
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Yep .. Advance is the only builder of non-electronic M80's. Here is a spec sheet if you're interested:

http://www.advancetransformer.com/ec...7431016181.pdf

Only thing with these is you need to watch your BTL wire length, the ignitor is rated only up to 5' so that does put these ballasts somewhat close to the hood as compared to other ballasts.
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Steve I just spoke with Al brite in Port Coquitlam and they quoted me $109 each for the M80s.

Advanced Pulse Start ballast #71A57A2 is $68.50, can you run most bulbs off this?

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I need 1 more, even 2 if it's a good enough deal
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Steve I just spoke with Al brite in Port Coquitlam and they quoted me $109 each for the M80s.

Advanced Pulse Start ballast #71A57A2 is $68.50, can you run most bulbs off this?

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get them to look up the exact part number and make sure it has the starter and cap.. don't let them tell you to use a different or that this is a replacement ballast as there isn't a replacement ballast.. I went through this with Albright befor and I had 4 price changed till it ended up being 159.00. yes you can run any bulb of the HQI or the pulse start but you don't get the benifit of the extra PAR, but as a second choice I would go with the pulse start.



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I phoned them and got the price then I called back to make sure it included the starter and cap but I got another fellow, he said it doesn't need a starter because it's MH I assume that's what makes it different than non HQI is that it DOES need the starter.

So I'd get more PAR off the HQI than the Pulse start?

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I phoned them and got the price then I called back to make sure it included the starter and cap but I got another fellow, he said it doesn't need a starter because it's MH I assume that's what makes it different than non HQI is that it DOES need the starter.

So I'd get more PAR off the HQI than the Pulse start?

Doug
that tells me there that they have no idea what ballast you are asking for like any lighting place. ask them for the exact part number including the cap and starter and I can guarente the price will climb but do it anyways so we can compare prices but go there and make them show you the PN in there book, you'll find they like to substitute to what they think you need and frankly most of these guys don't have a clue when it comes to the types of bulbs and there requirments that we use.

um ya way more PAR I think the ushi tests in at almost 1.3X more PAR on a ushio bulb.

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When I phone Albrite tomorrow I don't want to confuse them but, with the talk about Ballast to Lamp distance, can you change off capacitors or ignitors to increase that distance? The M80 says a Ballast to Lamp distance of 5 feet, what if I wanted to go to 7 or 10 feet?

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Not with the M80. The ballast has a recommended ignitor, if you dig and dig through the Advance catalog you can find long-distance ignitors for the OTHER pulse-start ballasts (e.g. M138) but there is no long-range version of the ignitor used with the M80. As far as I can tell.
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