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					Originally Posted by  Dearth
					 
				 
				I started with Hydors from a friend(freebie's) and then kept using the newer models never had an issue with them when I get money ahead I will prob upgrade but I have no issues with the Hydors at all. 
			
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 Hydors are ok as long as there not running backwards on start up, PITA sometimes after a power outage. It's only reason I don't use them.