I think you're right. Although I don't understand networking very well I'm sure that the use of two routers is making this much more difficult. I'm going to remove the Apple device tonight and give that a shot. I've heard port 8080 is good... any others? thanks again everyone for the help. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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