I had them at about 10" above the water line. My lighting is a long story lol. I'm running mitras now and love them. I I have had radions, Vegas and still have a sol over my frags. Check my build thread in my signature for pics of them running side by side 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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