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Originally Posted by jorjef
And this is where I have to throw up my arms, shake my head and yell at the screen "then who's fault was it" (not at you Fishy just the situation)
No one had a gun to their head and was made to order from him, everyone was likely seeing the bad reviews and must have thought "won't happen to me" and for this to be happening for years makes my eyes just glaze over in wonderment when I hear complaints. So where does someone lay the blame, I would say 75% to the person ordering. Every vendor has DOA'S but when Burc does it's a heinous crime. Everyone I'm sure has had a vendor or LFS say "oh well sorry" with no compensation. In my opinion to ask Canreef to fight on your behalf or to punish him is wrong. I don't know what the code of conduct is for vendors on this site but I'm pretty sure it doesn't say the vendor has to conduct their business with canreefs code of customer morals and values, I could be wrong. I hear that this site if more open to free speach and has a family feel to it but that leads to more of a personal opinion form of policing because of freindships, and that is a slippery slope.
I could go on but I haven't had any coffee yet and I'm starting to loose focus, as a matter of fact I can't remember why I even started this post..lol oh well, it took me long enough to type this so I might as well "submit reply"
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The problem back then was that he was the guy who wouldn't send what you ordered and then refused to refund you or replace frags for you when you did not get what you originally paid for. Then if you came on here to post a complaint about it, it quickly got deleted since he was a paying sponsor. So numerous people were getting ripped off for years because no one was aware of what was really going on.
After awhile people started pm'ing each other, so then word of how much he would consistently mess things up and rip people off started to get out. But it was all behind the scenes, new members had no idea and would fall victim to his cheep prices. Wasn't until enough fed up members banded together and constantly harassed the mod's, and people started lawsuits against him that he finally was removed as a vendor and the truth came out for all to be aware of.
Even now that the truth is out there I still hear people saying "I had a good experience.....he messed up my order" all in the same breath. How is someone who constantly messes up orders a "good experience"???????? Sure it's nice that at the moment he sends replacements, but most of the replacements aren't what you ordered in the first place! If I pay someone for XYZ coral I want XYZ not XTR.