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Thanks for all your response and all the pms as well. I am going to continue to research for a bit so chime in if you wish. At the present moment the vertex looks like it might be the winner, good buddy recommends and well he hasn't steered me wrong and he brought up a great point. The pump being in the skimmer? Not sure if that's a good idea at all the more I think about it