Thanks guys.
I prefer the tunze 2 part. I guess I was kind of venting on the TLF & more looking for someone else to say it sucks too. The 1st time I used it someone had given me a about a 1" to mount a frag, I thought it may have just been old, the reason I had some of it the last time I went to buy some they didn't have the tunze only the TLF so I fell for it again & last night I found out that it just sucks. NEVER again though. Which is why I put it in the product review forum asking for others preferences, not feeling like searching for a bunch of old threads.

Thanks for posting those though.