[Taoism]

Well, I do deal with Jayson. He is building my tanks, I have recently purchased 600 lbs of sand from him, and am getting another 300lbs of sand very soon.

Jayson is great, and I have had no problems with him and will continue to send the bulk of my business to him.

I have looked into J&L and aquariumpros.ca, but that wasn't the question I posed in my original post ;p

tampabaysaltwater has gotten many rave reviews on many boards and are one of the few companies that will ship into Canada from the US (albeit its a PITA as indicated in his reply to me).

As for live rock being covered under CITES... Please don't take this as a flame, but have you read CITES? I have, and no where did I see "live rock" mentioned as being restricted. The organisms listed in CITES that would be affected for import by an aquariast are most hard corals, and a clam or two. I don't want to open the PDF this second and look it all up again, but live rock/sand is NOT covered under CITES unless there was another ammendment to it that I am not aware of. If I am mistaken on this, please direct me to what page of the CITES agreement, or supplement that contains references to live rock being restricted because that WILL greatly affect a person's ability to bring liverock across the border.

Also, I got a follow-up from TBS today as pasted below.

In any case I hope you don't read my response above to the CITES comment to be inflamatory, I don't mean it like that at all. I like to make informed decisions, and I have spent a wee bit of time phoning around the federal gov't and reading the documents on the CITES website to ensure I have a decent grasp of what it covers.

Thanks for at least responding though!

Cheers,
Keith.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Londeree
To: Keith Young
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Shipping to Canada

There are no problems at the border, have many canadian customers who do this.......we are at 1-813-875-3574 for info/orders!
Thanks'
Richard TBS
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Young
To: Liverock
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Shipping to Canada

ok, honestly I am not trying to be obtuse with this next question [img]smile.gif[/img]

Shipping into canada is a pain as outlined below by you.

Can you tell me what to expect when bringing this stuff back across the border? I.e. no duties or taxes...so I declare it as X lbs of live rock and sand? Do you need to provide a CITES form with my order? I would like to clarify everything I need to bring it across the border with minimal diffculties at the border.

If you could clearly indicate to me what if any paperwork I would need to have with me, I would greatly appreciate it.

Or is it really as simple as driving to the border with a bunch of boxes of live rock and sand and telling them (the border guards) what is in the boxes?

Do you have any other Canadian customers who have done this?

Cheers,
Keith.

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[ 30 May 2002, 16:03: Message edited by: Taoism ]