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Originally Posted by Polscot
sigh.....they all have cities i tell the stores down there that there going to be comming to canada, have them ship to oregon and then to here the nessisary paper work is all there, everyone is just focusing on the negative, yes i think alot of the shops in calgary are over prices hence wanting to get into the reefers community and deal with private sellers, and yes, i realise calgary has alot of good stores unlike other places, but at the end of the day...no offence i dont care about other places if u dont like where u are move, stop bringing negativity on me for simply wanting to turn to private sellers over go to a store.
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I was not going to weigh in here as not to clutter up your thread, but you seem to be doing a good enough job yourself.
I have dealt with shipping/mailing/bringing across items controlled by CITES.
Firstly, I would be willing to bet that if you said you needed CITES documents for some corals you are shipping to Canada 1/2 the stores in the US would have no clue how/where to get these and the other 1/2 would tell you to move along as CITES documentation is a pain in the butt, and unless you are spending a considerable amount of money they will not bother. You mention that you are stocking a 6.6 gal, Fluval Edge IIRC, so you are likely not looking for a large shipment.
With that said, not all corals, rics, zoas are not on the CITES list, so you may not need documents for some more run of the mill stuff. If you have the shipper put "Non CITES Specimens" on the package they are less likey to be siezed or held up. Still there is a chance they will spot check the package, and may hold it up long enough to kill the shipment, and if there is something in there that is CITES and is not documented, you can get nailed. Luckily most customs agents are not trained to identify things to a fine level of detail, but that too can bugger things up if you get the over zelous rookie who refers it to Fish & Wildlife. How do I know? I have had it happen.
If moving corals across the border was easy & cheap then we would all be doing it. There are so many variables that can end up with a dead specimen and being out of pocket for shipping and the livestock. Things that can go wrong include a mistakenly seized shipment, storage in too hot or too cold warehouse, lost in transit, etc. etc. etc.
When you factor that into buying locally it becomes a more attractive option.
You do seem to have it all figured out though, so I wish you all the best.
IB4TL.
Andrew