FTA you can get HBO and all the other chanels I know guys in Winnipeg that do. You are right it is a hasel because you have to beable to recieve bothe vertical and hor izontal signals and you need to beable to change satalites. It is not like years ago where you only got the chanels the were not scrambled The new recievers unscramble the signals for you your just have to have the right menue program for the satalite you are tuned to. In the long run TV is internet based MTS has proven it with there VDSL TV. Telus has yet to make there VDSL work properly, I think they are trying to reinvent the wheel on this one. MOTAROLA owns the company that MTS uses for their equipment and whould hapaly sell it to Telus and train people on how to install it. 1 box for a entire home where as Telus they have to run a line to and have a controler box at each TV as does Shaw for the digital TV that is.

Bill