Both of them are what I call "sucker sales". That is to say, store owners breath a sigh of relief after they get rid of those things. They require too much effort to keep alive (in the form of feedings, the frequency of which quickly becomes obnoxious to the average reef keeper) and quickly decline in the confines of most store displays and/or reef tanks. You can see some of this happening in your specimens in the form of the smaller than usual polyps and receded tissue.
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