[mpishi]

as a newly registered user to this group, i find the subject a little off topic although interesting. it is also ironic that an earlier thread had a member posting his/her displeasure with a traffic ticket for running a red light and ways to avoid the financial penalty. maybe if everyone had a better developed sense of responsibility towards society as well as themselves we could continue to ask important questions pertaining to fragging techniques and helpful tips for home plumbing. for those serious minded types, my own opinion is that criminal behaviour is often related to substance abuse in some form whether by the criminal or in their developmental environment. while i am not a liberal, quite the opposite (castrate rapists, invoke shariah law, prosecute even "minor" crimes) i do believe childhood education is the place to begin shaping a compliant and conforming society.

ps. any ideas or comments on system shock when lights are on a timer and go from off to on with a click - not real natural sunrise, do the corals react?