Yes I know all about the "Hype" of keeping goniapora alive. What some of us are saying is that there are many species of goniapora, and some are very hardy and quite easy to keep alive. These are the goniapora that me and tim and a few of my hobbiest customers have had good success with. I say a few because I only deal with a select few local "hobbiests". Most of my customers have their tanks maintained by me. I pick the livestock and maintain it for them, they have a pretty tank.