these were my first bulbs.. I hated them.. then I went to geisnmann 135 k they were ok. then XM 10k too white,, and finally I am on phoenix 14k with my vho actinics.. The best light so far and well priced... I love the blue tint of these bulbs... They lightened up nicely after about 2 weeks.. I wont use any other bulb unless I get a free one of another brand to try.. PHOENIX all the way for me.. they are about 80 bucks ,. Try em..!!!
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