[smokinreefer]

well i have heard back form a couple places...and checked out another hydroponics...nothing.
the one place i didnt hear back from was the place that advertises they carry the hellolights product line...oh well.
the ones at JL are not exactly what i wanted but i should be able to squeeze them in behind my reflectors, so i am just waiting for them to get a couple more in for me.

thanks for all the help guys. appreciate it.