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Old 12-11-2002, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by StirCrazy
I voted yes I would buy them oif availble, but if they were more expensive then my answer would be changed to NO.

I feel people who strive to raise tank raised fish should be doing so and offereing some incentive for people to buy thier fish..
Holy smokes! :shock: It costs more to raise fish than it does to pay some third world guy to go catch them and ship them here. What is the incentive for a breeder to set up a facility? Answer: profit. What is your incentive to buy captive bred fish? Answer: doing your part to save the natural reef. You don't get to call yourself ethical if you don't make ethical choices. An ethical choice would be; pay the extra ten bucks for a captive bred fish that will likely be healthier and therefore have a better chance at survival. Sack up and do your part, that would be ethical. I gaurantee that if we don't clean the hobby up there won't be one. If what Brad says holds true (and I don't dispute him) we might as well kiss it good bye today.

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I also do not belive that something should be more expensive just because it is biodegradable, or enviromentlay friendly..
What if it costs more to create biodegradable or environmentally friendly products? Isn't it our moral obligation to do our part to leave this planet in the best possible shape. Those before us can claim ignorance to a large extent but we no longer can. This applies to everything in life: our tanks, our vehicles, our food, our garbage....etc.

Brad, I agree with a lot of what you say. Obviously, the majority of hobbyists are border line retarded or just don't care, either or. This is really neither here nor there anyway. If you know better and I know better we have to strive to set examples. If there are people that know better and don't do a thing...well I guess they have to look in the mirror. I've had talks with different people, some with tanks and some without. All agree this hobby isn't ethical but that if you do your part you can make a difference.

I don't agree that there will be no regulation in the hobby because it is too difficult. There has already been regulation implemented and I'm sure there will be more (see Caribbean and Hawaii). It really wouldn't be that hard to stop boxes of fish from Indonesia or Micronesia. Look at Fiji and the whole CITIES issue. It didn't take much did it? What about Europe and South Africa? Europe doesn't allow many specific species of coral and South Africa allows no stonies. We can hide our heads in the ground and say, "...it won't happen here..." or "...if it does happen, there's nothing we can do about it..." or we can start educating people and doing our part to convince people why they should spend an extra ten dollars or not purchase a certain animal.
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