I agree with Bill. I dont think i have ever seen dark skimmate come out of mine, mostly a light brown colored, but still stinky. I have mine on a mag 5 with the surface pre skimmer. Surface skimmer is kind of a pain if the water runs below the correct level the pump runs dry, had to run down many times during the nights to fix this. Overall i am pretty happy with it and would recommend it to others!
Steve
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