the first one is indeed an echinata, the other one is a lord. i'll try and snap some pics of my green centered, it's starting to develop orange stripes. i also have a nice green one i got off of christy, mean little bastage, zapped a lord frag close by 
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Given sufficient thrust pigs will fly just fine.
90 Gallon LPS tank - Challice, Acans, Favia, Diplo and Zoos
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