[BlkWolfe]

So a batfin is easy to breed correct? Do you have a reason that they are not available in almost every LFS like turks or pigeon bloods are?

and if they were hard no one would bother breeding them? so does this go for every strain thats difficult? have you contacted all the asian breeders selling singapore fireworks, golden leopard snakes, and a couple dozen more strains that require special care of the fry to tell them they're wasting their time?

my statement was more along the lines of what does a batfin have to do with your fish to begin with since you brought them up

a hifin/hibody fish has nothing to do with a batfin fish. do you see bodies that are taller than long? or fins that are the same height as the body of the fish? a batfin is simply has longer finnage, not any taller in body or fin

the caudal on the hifins on dear mike's website isnt any larger than any other discus in his pictures. discus are not angels. there are no extended ventrals, pectoral or caudal fins on the batfins.

as for the size of your fish, we just went over this a page ago. you very clearly say you purchased your prized turk at 2" three months ago, and his current size is 3". so the fish is really 4-5" or do you mean the new turks you just purchased have grown 2" in the last 2 weeks?

im not starting any fight. youve been doing that quite well on your own. im starting to wonder why i ever got involved trying to help you.

one last thing about the beefheart...i have fed it...along with bloodworms, brine shrimp, mysis, flakes, blackworms among other things. one page back you said that stuff in the pics was bloodworms...now its beefheart?

so if i fed beefheart...i would know why there is a layer of uneaten food sitting on the bottom fouling your water?

and you put brand new, stressed discus into a tank lined with algea, waste covered sponge, and bottom covered in food fouling the tank?

do you really see nothing wrong with this?