[BlkWolfe]

How does a batfin show that discus are easy to breed? Aside from that strain being bred for longer dorsal and anal fins, it is just like any other strain line bred for a desired trait. Replace "dorsal and anal fins" in my last sentance with anything from "more yellow", "more spots", "complete pattern", "yellow base", you end up with yellow crystals, red leopards, any number of strains, and red spotted yellows among other things.

btw, any measurement of body size is just that. body size. batfin discus arent really an example of anything. hifin or highbody discus arent measured vertically, only horizontally. Why are batfin discus an example of why "we" measure from the nose to base of tail? most reputable breeders sell by body length only. the only reason you would include the caudal fin, or any other fin for that matter, is to seemingly increase the size of your fish and hence jack up the price.

and another btw...if you look at the trailing edge of all those batfin fish, they dont extend back any further than the caudal, even on the longest ones. again, back to reputable breeders for body only, or price jackers including any/all fins

what was the relavence of all this towards your discus as well? you dont have any blue batfins do you?

I'm also very glad you read, however you still do need to practice some of what you read and preach before youll get those discus up to breeding age. youve pointed out in numerous threads and other forums how much care/time is required and how clean their environment must be kept, however every picture of your tanks and systems way back from when you started as a "ram breeder" up until your new discus a few days ago, the sponges are covered in crap, there are layers of uneaten food on the bottom, and you yourself just stated that your best discus has only grown 3/4" in 3 months

Noticed on your theads in the other forums you took some new pics today. can we see how clean your keeping your tanks now that your putting in those extra sponges, the ac500, and especially since your going to be feeding so much extra to speed up their growth?

wait, dont they need to eat it first?