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fishyfolks 09-25-2012 07:46 PM

please...may you help me identify this algae??
 
Hi everyone,

In the 10 or more years I've been reefing, I've never really had an algae bloom or problem like this, so I'm not really sure what I'm dealing with here. All of my beautiful coralline covered rocks are browny, green and 'furry' :( Even my snails and crabs have algae on them. I now need a clean up crew FOR my clean up crew. Haha. Its all over the glass, power heads, the algae scraper.....Basically, its EVERYWHERE.

Background info:

Its a 5 year established tank that I just moved 4 months ago
nitrite and ammonia 0 (or as close to it a possible)
phosphate .5
nitrate 20-40 :(
temp 79
salinity .025
Good circulation with no stagnant areas
Tank looked awesome up until 3 weeks ago when i noticed high nitrates and performed a 40 percent water change
Euroreef skimmer on a very wet skim at the moment


I'm trying to make this post as short as possible so that it contains only relevant info, but PLEASE let me know if there is anything else that would be helpful.

Sorry the pictures are so bad. I took them with my phone. If better quality pics a required, I can use my bf's camera.

Thanks guys :)

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reefwars 09-25-2012 08:02 PM

at first glance i would say cyano but i would look into dinos as well as im thinking it could be that.


cyano bacteria i imagine you would have seen in the 10 yrs of reefing , but dinos is very similiar to cyano in looks but is much harder to get rid of. dinos is usually a mix of colors and alot of bubbles hanging on strings.


cyano grows more in sheets and has bubbles attached to the sheets.

dinos = dinoflagellates

reefwars 09-25-2012 08:05 PM

ok after reading which i should have done first lol this could be caused by the move you did, with the high number of nitrates and high phos i would imagine it is the cause .


are you running anything for phosphates??


nitrates arnt horrible but could come down some for sure:)


depending on what your livestock is a blackout could get you a quick fix while you attack nutrients:)

fishyfolks 09-25-2012 08:07 PM

thanks for the quick reply!

Out of panic, I looked at a lot of dino pics and descriptions, but it doesn't seem to be PRODUCING o2, rather the algae appears to be 'catching' bubbles that are produced in the water when i turn my skimmer up or down quickly. Any idea if there is a definitive way to determine? I was thinkin cyano as well.....I've just never seen it EVERYWHERE......

thanks again

fishyfolks 09-25-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 749646)
ok after reading which i should have done first lol this could be caused by the move you did, with the high number of nitrates and high phos i would imagine it is the cause .


are you running anything for phosphates??


nitrates arnt horrible but could come down some for sure:)


depending on what your livestock is a blackout could get you a quick fix while you attack nutrients:)


Yeah, common sense tells me its the move too. Due to the corals I have, a black out isnt favorable, but I will look into a phosphate remover. thank you

reefwars 09-25-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishyfolks (Post 749648)
thanks for the quick reply!

Out of panic, I looked at a lot of dino pics and descriptions, but it doesn't seem to be PRODUCING o2, rather the algae appears to be 'catching' bubbles that are produced in the water when i turn my skimmer up or down quickly. Any idea if there is a definitive way to determine? I was thinkin cyano as well.....I've just never seen it EVERYWHERE......

thanks again

the only way to my knowlege to tell for sure is under microscope, im not 100% sure if thats true or not, but they are def hard to distinguish between the two of them.

i do know a blackout will get rid of it, if its a nutrient issue it will return.


if i were in your shoes before i went with cyano chemical treatments i would add a large amount of gfo in a reactor, do a large 30% + water change and then do a 3 day black out with the tank completely covered blocking out all lights.


the fact that this all happened at once so fast leads one to believe there is a single cause....could be something as silly as lights or could be the move its self....either way you want to get the algae gone so you can treat the tank for nutrients or whatever else is the cause:)

reefwars 09-25-2012 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishyfolks (Post 749651)
Yeah, common sense tells me its the move too. Due to the corals I have, a black out isnt favorable, but I will look into a phosphate remover. thank you


you could look innto a product called phosdown or just add some gfo in a reactor, pull the new gfo after a week or 2 then add new gfo , this will knock down alot of your phos and the new gfo will keep it knocked down:)


good luck:)

Reef Puffer 09-26-2012 01:43 AM

I think dinos kill snails? Maybe im way wrong? Way to much crap to remember.....

BlueWorldAquatic 09-26-2012 01:56 AM

looks like the start or "red turf algae"

toytech 09-26-2012 02:06 AM

my phosphates have been hovering from .05 and 0 and my algea has never grown so fast , it only takes a little and BOOM green snowstorm . Ive knocked it back to near 0 and its slowing down .


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