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Enigma 07-01-2012 03:01 PM

ParaGuard
 
Can I split the Paraguard dosage for my HT into half and give it twice a day, twelve hours apart?

I dosed once yesterday at noon, at around 2/3rds the dosage for the tank. The fish were breathing quite heavily afterwards.

I understand that Paraguard only stays in the water for around 24hours, and the fish are breathing better this morning. I'm thinking they should be able to manage a dosage split.

Also, Purigen and GFO are in the canister filter on the HT tank. I don't want to take these out. Will lengthening the treatment compensate for the filter media and the 2/3rds total dosage? I think the filter media will remove the malachite green from the water.

Proteus 07-01-2012 03:52 PM

I would stay at the dose for 21 days and add a air stone or point powerhead at surface for more agitation of water surface. If you leave media in filter your probably wasting money and time

Enigma 07-01-2012 09:26 PM

Thanks :)

I popped in an airstone and moved the powerhead a little. The fish are breathing better now (though still a little harder than usual). The clown is being very odd, but the Chromis and the goby are doing well.

I'll take the media out tomorrow. The Seachem website indicates that Matrix can be used in conjunction with Paraguard, so I'll put some of that in to give the nitrifying bacteria more to colonize.

Proteus 07-01-2012 09:31 PM

Sounds good that the fish breathing a little better. I'm sure that three weeks will fly buy and the breathing will continoue to improve as time goes on.

daniella3d 07-02-2012 02:25 AM

I used Paraguard at full dosage every 24 hours as recommanded and never had a problem with fish breathing fast.

If they have ick or velvet, it's probably what is causing the fast breathing.

I use Paraguard for 3 weeks in a 20 gallons tank every time I get a new fish as a preventive treatment. Never had a fish breat fast from that.

It's pointless to use Paraguard and use Purigen at the same time, as you are just waisting the med since it's probably absorbed by the purigen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enigma (Post 727877)
Can I split the Paraguard dosage for my HT into half and give it twice a day, twelve hours apart?

I dosed once yesterday at noon, at around 2/3rds the dosage for the tank. The fish were breathing quite heavily afterwards.

I understand that Paraguard only stays in the water for around 24hours, and the fish are breathing better this morning. I'm thinking they should be able to manage a dosage split.

Also, Purigen and GFO are in the canister filter on the HT tank. I don't want to take these out. Will lengthening the treatment compensate for the filter media and the 2/3rds total dosage? I think the filter media will remove the malachite green from the water.


daniella3d 07-02-2012 02:26 AM

huh...where exactly did you see this? Are you refering to Matrix carbon?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enigma (Post 727926)
Thanks :)
The Seachem website indicates that Matrix can be used in conjunction with Paraguard,


Enigma 07-02-2012 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 727984)
huh...where exactly did you see this? Are you refering to Matrix carbon?

Nope. I'm referring to Matrix (the filter media).

http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...es/Matrix.html

I read it in one of the FAQs on the site. The FAQ also indicated that Purigen can be used with Paraguard, though the Purigen will filter out some of the malachite green and will alter the effectiveness of the treatment (though won't render it useless).

I don't have ich or velvet in the tank. I suspect one of the fish carries, but is resistant to, brook. The breathing issues are related to oxygenation in my QT, and Clowns are very sensitive to Paraguard (according to Seachem's website) to begin with (they recomend 1/2 dosages for Clowns).

gregzz4 07-02-2012 12:15 PM

What are you treating for Shelley ?

Enigma 07-02-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 728079)
What are you treating for Shelley ?

The Paraguard is for the suspected Brook. While I think Ich-X may be a better treatment for it, Ich-X requires big daily water changes and our camping schedule doesn't allow for that right now.

Of the three clowns I've purchased (all from the same source) I've lost two of them to "Brook-like" symptoms within three days. I bought a pair, lost one, then replaced the one that died, and lost that one. The little guy I still have probably has it. Another Clown will be added once I get everyone all fixed up.

The Chromis could potentially be affected by brook as well. It is unlikely that the Goby would get it, but I want to keep the display fishless for now. I don't have anywhere else to put him.

I've already run through a week of PraziPro, as i thought the Chromis had roundworms. I think I was wrong on that one. The PraziPro seems to have fixed them up, but now I think they had flukes and not roundworms. The had some funny spots where they had lost their luster, and those are now gone. The white stringy stool now appears to be gone, too.

I'll do a second round of PraziPro after the Paraguard, just to be on the safe side.

sully08 07-03-2012 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 727982)
I used Paraguard at full dosage every 24 hours as recommanded and never had a problem with fish breathing fast.

If they have ick or velvet, it's probably what is causing the fast breathing.

I use Paraguard for 3 weeks in a 20 gallons tank every time I get a new fish as a preventive treatment. Never had a fish breat fast from that.

It's pointless to use Paraguard and use Purigen at the same time, as you are just waisting the med since it's probably absorbed by the purigen.

Do you treat every day for 21 days with the paragaurd. Do you think you could use paragaurd in a reef system.


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