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wayner 02-08-2010 02:51 PM

Florida Keys being invaded by Lionfish
 
Florida Keys being invaded by lionfish - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

Seamazter 02-08-2010 03:07 PM

Good article

sphelps 02-08-2010 03:42 PM

There's lionfish all over the Caribbean, I saw hundreds in Cuba last year.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ze/Cuba_68.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ze/Cuba_70.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ze/Cuba_71.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ze/Cuba_72.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ze/Cuba_86.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ze/Cuba_87.jpg

Apparently DNA testing of caught fish has shown that they all originated from the 6 to 8 lionfish kept in an aquarium in Florida, the aquarium was wiped out by a hurricane.

Delphinus 02-08-2010 04:30 PM

A public aquarium or a private one? How long ago was that? The reason I ask is they are pretty widespread, I guess their range extends as far north as the Carolina's ?? Or at least Georgia for sure. I'm curious if it's really all from 8 individuals how much time it took to fill in that span..

sphelps 02-08-2010 04:41 PM

Hurricane Andrew in 1992 smashed an aquarium and release the lions into Biscayne Bay. I'm not sure if it was public or private but I can only assume it was public if they are matching DNA. I'm sure how much truth is involved int this theory but it seems to be common story on the web these days.

Funky_Fish14 02-08-2010 04:58 PM

Yeah I too highly doubt it was just from those 8 fish...

I've also heard of sightings of them almost as far north as New York.

justinl 02-08-2010 05:43 PM

Anybody have a link or the title of the paper that spshelps is referring to? I'm just curious about the DNA tracking methods used... and frankly a little dubious. I'm no genetics guru myself, but I can't imagine any way to accomplish such a thing unless the 6-8 fish in question had had tissue samples taken from them and preserved (not likely unless they were originally experimental subjects). This would of course also require the samples to be available to the researchers (not impossible, assuming they were from a public aquarium), that the researchers were aware of the samples, and that the researchers had independent tissue samples of other fish to compare. Seems like too much of a miracle scenario to me.

edit: a quick literature search turns up not much. far as I can tell, the exact origin is still a mystery though the aquarium trade is getting most of the speculative blame.

corpusse 02-08-2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky_Fish14 (Post 490187)
Yeah I too highly doubt it was just from those 8 fish...

I've also heard of sightings of them almost as far north as New York.

I remember reading about them in nyc. Maybe not so much there but in florida, I think it would be pretty fun to spend the day hunting lion fish.

saltcreep 02-08-2010 07:22 PM

There are issues with other non-native species in most parts of Florida, not just lionfish. These fish are being reported in the Carolinas and further north.

There has been speculation about a now defunct wholesaler dumping fish in the Miami area where a higher than normal concentration of non-native fish have been found.

sphelps 02-08-2010 08:54 PM

Like I said I'm not sure how much truth there is to this but....

http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactS...?speciesID=963

http://www.allatsea.net/article/Dece..._the_Caribbean

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionfish

http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/news...--30-30--.html

http://www.fishchannel.com/fish-news.../lionfish.aspx

http://www.physorg.com/news159706864.html


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