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bigfish 06-24-2009 08:43 PM

low alk (6dkh) and calcium 400ppm ???????
 
I'm cycling a tank, 20g, for 2 months now. I got matured live rock for another reefers tank and threw in a yellow tail damsel a month ago, hes doing good. Now I'm noticing a drop in alk. how can i get this back up, other than the obvious 10-20% water change. I think i herd somewhere that baking soda could raise alk? I am using tap water distilled for 24hrs (i know i should change, but all in good time). Anyone?

xtreme 06-24-2009 08:54 PM

Here is a good recipe for calcium and alkalinity dosing:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php

Aleks 06-24-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfish (Post 430745)
I'm cycling a tank, 20g, for 2 months now. I got matured live rock for another reefers tank and threw in a yellow tail damsel a month ago, hes doing good. Now I'm noticing a drop in alk. how can i get this back up, other than the obvious 10-20% water change. I think i herd somewhere that baking soda could raise alk? I am using tap water distilled for 24hrs (i know i should change, but all in good time). Anyone?

I have the same problem, so I'm along for the ride....

I punched in some stuff to the reef calculator site....I just always thought stuff was a balance, so I would mess everything up by adding things??

Joe Reefer 06-24-2009 09:38 PM

The correct balance of calcium is 400ppm when alk is at 6dKH.

Aleks 06-24-2009 09:42 PM

Ahh, ok so what I was thinking was correct, that a balanced increase in both is what will correct the problem... up it to ~450 calcium and around 9 dkh....

littlesilvermax 06-24-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 430764)
Ahh, ok so what I was thinking was correct, that a balanced increase in both is what will correct the problem... up it to ~450 calcium and around 9 dkh....


That is about right. I personally only target about 430 for calcium and between 7 & 10 for dkh. (always nice to have it higher then NSW in case something happens)

Don't forget that unless magnesium id where it should be (above 1300 ppm) you won't get those numbers, as magnesium helps hold calcium in suspension.

Myka 06-25-2009 05:34 AM

For an explanation on how calcium, alkalinity, and magnesium interact with each other take a read through the link in my signature. I also suggest different products, and dosing methods.

Balanced Calcium and Alkalinity:

1.4 dKH to 350 ppm
2.1 dKH to 375 ppm
5.6 dKH to 400 ppm
9.1 dKH to 425 ppm
12.6 dKH to 450 ppm
16.1 dKH to 475 ppm

Personally, I aim for 9 dKH alkalinity and 420 ppm calcium. Generally, natural seawater contains 7 dKH alkalinity and 410 ppm calcium, so you can't go wrong imitating that either.

Aleks 06-25-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by littlesilvermax (Post 430766)
That is about right. I personally only target about 430 for calcium and between 7 & 10 for dkh. (always nice to have it higher then NSW in case something happens)

Don't forget that unless magnesium id where it should be (above 1300 ppm) you won't get those numbers, as magnesium helps hold calcium in suspension.

RGR, and I assume I have low Mg due to my salt mix......

littlesilvermax 06-25-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 430926)
RGR, and I assume I have low Mg due to my salt mix......

What salt?

Aleks 06-25-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by littlesilvermax (Post 430927)
What salt?

Instant Ocean, reported to be 1070 out of box......Mg tests are expensive so I've neglected to test this one thing...


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