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balistidae 05-02-2009 12:32 AM

Instant Ocean Dosing
 
Im just curious what everyone else is adding to their water change water when using IO.
Specifically Alk, CA and Mg. Thanks!

hillegom 05-02-2009 12:36 AM

I would like to know that as well

littlesilvermax 05-02-2009 12:46 AM

Simple:


Don't add any alk, it is high enough already.

For every 1 US gallon of fresh water (RO, or RO/DI, or distilled)

-add 1.1 grams (0.2 tsp) variable from 0.6 to 1.3 grams of Calcium Chloride Dihydrate

-add 5.6 grams (1.3 tsps) of Magnesium Chloride (or the mix with mostly mag chloride, but also some Magnesium Sulfate [Epson salts} for better ionic balance) variable from 3.1 to 6.9 grams

THEN add the salt, let mix for at least a few hours.

Done'sville!






FWIW, the above is what I use for about 1.026 (or so s.g.) with my IO, and have been doing so for the pest 5 or 6 years. This assumes the water starts off at 11, 350, and 1180, and then ends up at 11, 430, and 1380.

Feel free to use a Reef Chemistry Calculator to custom tailor to your needs

RuGlu6 05-02-2009 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balistidae (Post 416743)
Im just curious what everyone else is adding to their water change water when using IO.
Specifically Alk, CA and Mg. Thanks!

There is a lot was discussed about magnesium etc dosing when using IO for water change in this tread. See last two pages.

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ight=magnesium

Doug 05-02-2009 12:48 AM

I broke this down from Ben, {chemmaster and who,s products I use for it}.

23g mix, 150ml magnesium...mix in ro water for awile then add 3 tsp. calcium. Usually mix it overnight or something, before adding salt.

I use for a 5g salt bucket of water.... 37ml magnesium & 3/4tsp. calcium.

I have heard the levels in new IO has been increased but this is still what I,m using. I add no magnesium to my tank itself and usually stays at the 1350ppm range.

For alk and calcium in the tank itself, I use Seachem 2 part. I would add no buffer to IO salt, as its usually pretty high in alkalinity already. Just use whatever is needed in the tank itself. Like mine or the cheaper stuff or any of the 2-parts. Or even when I dripped kalk, the alk. stayed pretty steady with the kalk drip buffering it enough, except for the odd time of adding a small bit of buffer.


:lol:. I see Ben posted while I was typing mine.

littlesilvermax 05-02-2009 12:53 AM

I just finished my post with a few more details.:mrgreen:

Doug 05-02-2009 01:19 AM

Good addition. The fwiw part is important.

balistidae 05-02-2009 01:20 AM

that sounds pretty close to what i am doing. Can the mg and ca be added at the same time to the fresh ro water (no salt)? Also does it have to mix overnight before adding the salt?

banditpowdercoat 05-02-2009 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlesilvermax (Post 416747)
Simple:


Don't add any alk, it is high enough already.

For every 1 US gallon of fresh water (RO, or RO/DI, or distilled)

-add 1.1 grams (0.2 tsp) variable from 0.6 to 1.3 grams of Calcium Chloride Dihydrate

-add 5.6 grams (1.3 tsps) of Magnesium Chloride (or the mix with mostly mag chloride, but also some Magnesium Sulfate [Epson salts} for better ionic balance) variable from 3.1 to 6.9 grams

THEN add the salt, let mix for at least a few hours.

Done'sville!






FWIW, the above is what I use for about 1.026 (or so s.g.) with my IO, and have been doing so for the pest 5 or 6 years. This assumes the water starts off at 11, 350, and 1180, and then ends up at 11, 430, and 1380.

Feel free to use a Reef Chemistry Calculator to custom tailor to your needs

Well, no wonder my Ca spiked when I added 1/4 cup to 25g LOL I need a smaller measuring spoon


Doug,. what are you mixing the Mg with? noticed your specifying ml, not grams.

littlesilvermax 05-02-2009 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balistidae (Post 416755)
that sounds pretty close to what i am doing. Can the mg and ca be added at the same time to the fresh ro water (no salt)? Also does it have to mix overnight before adding the salt?


Yes

Just mix it long enough that the mag and cal are dissolved, then you can add the salt.


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