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Stab_Master_Arson 02-24-2008 11:34 PM

Better oxygen exchange
 
I have been doing google searches for a product that increases oxygen in the water but have had little results. Is there a product on the market that does this so I can increase bioload.

Also, If I build a sump that is shallow with a humongous footprint thus huge surface area for oxygen exchange will that increase the dissolved oxygen or is there some sort of maximun parts ppm that can be reached or to be safe for fish.

Jeff_ 02-25-2008 12:05 AM

There are a couple things that could increase o2 concentration.
1. Skimmer- pretty much any skimmer will increase the o2 concentration. Look for the skimmer that has the highest air intake?
2. Air pump- This would probably cause a ton of salt creep, but will increase o2
3. As you said a larger sump means more area of gas exchange and any kind of surface agitation would also increase the o2 content.
4. Lastly, a refugium with 24 hr lighting. The photosynthesis would add o2 in the water.
HTH

Stab_Master_Arson 02-25-2008 01:56 AM

Thanks Jeff.

justinl 02-25-2008 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stab_Master_Arson (Post 304545)
Is there a product on the market that does this so I can increase bioload.

I do not know where you heard that increased oxygen levels allows for a greater bioload, but it does not. Not even close. You may want to do some research on the nitrogen cycle.

Dissolved oxygen is a vital part of successful aquaria but it is not everything. and to answer your last question, if the water becomes supersaturated with oxygen, then it can be harmful; for example, in supersaturated seahorse tanks, the horses develop bubbles under their skin as the gas bubbles out. It is not particularly easy to supersaturate water though.

UnderWorldAquatics 02-25-2008 06:46 AM

Running a ozone unit hooked up to a ORP meter is your best option, running the ozone through an oxygen/ozone reactor works great and lets the ozone dissipate, or you can run it through an ozone safe protien skimmer.

Pan 02-25-2008 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_ (Post 304549)
There are a couple things that could increase o2 concentration.
1. Skimmer- pretty much any skimmer will increase the o2 concentration. Look for the skimmer that has the highest air intake?
2. Air pump- This would probably cause a ton of salt creep, but will increase o2
3. As you said a larger sump means more area of gas exchange and any kind of surface agitation would also increase the o2 content.
4. Lastly, a refugium with 24 hr lighting. The photosynthesis would add o2 in the water.
HTH

24 hr refugium is not good, you need to let the plants recover from the light, 12 and 12 is better. 24hr you'll kill your macro algae's

mark 02-25-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Ol Nobodaddy (Post 304641)
24 hr refugium is not good, you need to let the plants recover from the light, 12 and 12 is better. 24hr you'll kill your macro algae's

debatable

Matt 02-25-2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Ol Nobodaddy (Post 304641)
24 hr refugium is not good, you need to let the plants recover from the light, 12 and 12 is better. 24hr you'll kill your macro algae's

I have to throw chaeto every other week, which is dark green and growing madly under 24/7 lighting.

Stab_Master_Arson 02-26-2008 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinl (Post 304628)
I do not know where you heard that increased oxygen levels allows for a greater bioload, but it does not. Not even close. You may want to do some research on the nitrogen cycle.

Dissolved oxygen is a vital part of successful aquaria but it is not everything. and to answer your last question, if the water becomes supersaturated with oxygen, then it can be harmful; for example, in supersaturated seahorse tanks, the horses develop bubbles under their skin as the gas bubbles out. It is not particularly easy to supersaturate water though.

http://freshaquarium.about.com/od/te.../g/bioload.htm


Definition: Bioload is the demand placed upon the life-support system in the aquarium as a result of the metabolism of all the living organisms present in the tank.

I understand that there are other environmental interactions that occur other than fish metabolizing oxygen. But I am already aware on how to control nitrates. :wink:

But thanks for addressing my question about over saturation.



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Thank you all for your responses - a well rounded bunch.

Stab_Master_Arson 02-26-2008 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderWorldAquatics (Post 304636)
Running a ozone unit hooked up to a ORP meter is your best option, running the ozone through an oxygen/ozone reactor works great and lets the ozone dissipate, or you can run it through an ozone safe protien skimmer.


Mind blown. :idea: :question:

do you have a link to a good article about this. I have never used or even seen an ozone reactor. I have heard of them before however.


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