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SeaSerpant 02-03-2008 10:45 PM

Sump spaces?
 
i have a 60g sump and it has no space for a refugium so i'm going to take out the baffels and rearrange them. Any idea of how to do it so i have the biggest refugium space possible. The measurments are

Length: 48"
Width: 20"
Height: 16.5"
Glass Thickness: 2cm

Any ideas?

chevyjaxon 02-03-2008 10:57 PM

lots of ways to do it one idea i have and havent built yet is to do it in 3 stages start with the fuge to the far right side baffle put the skimmer in the middle put in 3 baffles next these will set the water height for your skimmer and remove the air lastly put in your return with that size sump a refuge should be real easy to set up

SeaSerpant 02-03-2008 11:04 PM

well i got the measurments of the baffles 2 are 1foot which are the ones for the water to go over and i have 3 15.4 inch baffles for the water to go under. If you guys want to make me a diagram be free to. How many baffles and how far apart do they need to be for a bubble trap?

Pan 02-03-2008 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSerpant (Post 298961)
well i got the measurments of the baffles 2 are 1foot which are the ones for the water to go over and i have 3 15.4 inch baffles for the water to go under. If you guys want to make me a diagram be free to. How many baffles and how far apart do they need to be for a bubble trap?

Baffles, at least in my experience do not serve that much purpose. Though I have always had long sumps which might account for my lack of bubbles. I think it is more about strategic placement then the use of baffles. I personally do not believe they are an effective bubble trap. I like the idea of feeding the drain into a pvc pipe (4 or so inches filled with rock or something like it then with drain holes in it..) work nicely, better than baffles.

SeaSerpant 02-03-2008 11:12 PM

does the skimmer go in the front part of the sump (the place where the water comes in) or at the back (where the water goes out back into the main tank) ?

chevyjaxon 02-03-2008 11:23 PM

skimmer should be in the middle with the water running into the fuge first

mark 02-04-2008 12:48 AM

Nothing wrong with the skimmer in the front part.

Common layout is something like this:
-divide to in 1/4s lengthwise
-first 1/4, water in and skimmer compartment, followed by 3 baffles, 1 inch apart (over/under/over)
-middle 2 1/4s is refugium, followed by baffle (over)
-last 1/4 return pump compartment

The 1/4s are just to give an idea. The first compartment you size just big enough in width for your skimmer. The pump compartment bigger the better to allow for evaporation though can reduce in size if have ATO.

Skimmerking 02-04-2008 02:31 AM

I know that you can get a refugium tank to fit on top of the sump on the Mops site..

SeaSerpant 02-05-2008 12:49 AM

Ato?

mark 02-05-2008 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSerpant (Post 299276)
Ato?

automatic top off


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