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Oscar 04-01-2007 07:02 PM

To Sump or Not To Sump?
 
What are the pros and cons of a sump? I have still to make a decision on my first tank, but here is what I see so far:

Pros
  • A place to hide equipment
  • More stable environment due to larger volume of water
  • Location to top up water, add salt etc


Cons:
  • Extra noise of water cycling
  • more locations for water leakage


Care to add to the lists?

Thanks

Coldwater 04-01-2007 07:17 PM

I would go with a sump because of a few of your pros and the sump can also act as a "jail" for the things that decide they don't want to play nice. But yes they make more noise.

Matt

Matt 04-01-2007 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar (Post 243945)
What are the pros and cons of a sump? I have still to make a decision on my first tank, but here is what I see so far:

Pros
  • A place to hide equipment
  • More stable environment due to larger volume of water
  • Location to top up water, add salt etc
Cons:
  • Extra noise of water cycling
  • more locations for water leakage
Care to add to the lists?

Thanks

There's all the cool plumbing you get to do/look at. Then there's the built-in water flow and O2 exchange. It can be a bit of a trial to tune the noise of the overflow. I like to hear the water burbling a bit, and I have had to un-silence my overflow a bit to cover the sound of the pumps.

albert_dao 04-01-2007 08:39 PM

You can make completely silent overflows and I'd show you. But I'm suppose to be working and not goofing around on the internet. Will post an awesome diagram later for ya.

daddy01 04-01-2007 08:50 PM

Hi,
I am thinking myself whether to add sump, I only have a 25G tank, and can't (dont't know the difference) between sump and refugium(?)
Jim

andsoitgoes 04-01-2007 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddy01 (Post 243965)
Hi,
I am thinking myself whether to add sump, I only have a 25G tank, and can't (dont't know the difference) between sump and refugium(?)
Jim

No reason a sump can't be both :) mine is!

Mainly, though, the basic idea of a sump is to hold equip, increase o2, allow for topoff, skim, extra filtration from rock, bubble remover from skimmer, uv sterilization etc, etc.

And in my case, with many others, the otherwise empty area is a small refugium for me, with diff macro algaes, and is currently home for my troublemaker dottyback :)

Although it is risky (I have a HOB overflow and a maxijet 1200 for return) I would never go back. I can add my liquid reactor, phyto, purple up, etc all for maximum dispursal and the extra amount of water and filtration is *huge*

As for sound, I have a sponge in there that makes it go from loud and drainy, to quiet as a mouse.

So if you can, do it. For the health of your livestock! :)

marie 04-01-2007 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddy01 (Post 243965)
Hi,
I am thinking myself whether to add sump, I only have a 25G tank, and can't (dont't know the difference) between sump and refugium(?)
Jim

I refugium is a place for things to find refuge like macro algae (if you have herbiverous fish) and pods. It can be part of your sump or a separate tank that is still plumbed into the main tank.

Oscar 04-01-2007 11:40 PM

Quote:


As for sound, I have a sponge in there that makes it go from loud and drainy, to quiet as a mouse.

Sounds like a simple solution with the sponge, where do you install it?

andsoitgoes 04-01-2007 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar (Post 243995)
Sounds like a simple solution with the sponge, where do you install it?

you put it right over the drain hole, but I just tossed in a big fist size of chaeto and it did the same thing. Means I don't have to muddle with nitrate issues, and it does the same thing as the sponge :) Yay.

Oscar 04-02-2007 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andsoitgoes (Post 243996)
you put it right over the drain hole, but I just tossed in a big fist size of chaeto and it did the same thing. Means I don't have to muddle with nitrate issues, and it does the same thing as the sponge :) Yay.

For a newbie...

What is chaeto, as opposed to cheesies?


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