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		Anyone know where to rent things such as a lux meter and devices such as that.  
	This whole Icecap thingy going on on RC has me wanting to settle this once and for all. In the new year I want to set up my 33 with three different ballasts. Icecap, LOA and a VHO from Albrite. I cna't find anywhere that someone has sat down and measured the lumens output on an icecap LOA and the others. I am sooo curious now. I will be buying the new ballasts in possibly feb or march. But I want it set up and ready to go before hand. I will run each ballast for about a month measuring data each day and recording it. I'd just like to see some factual numbers. As it stands now I have only heard what people are assuming what is happeneing. No real numbers. And I dont assume. It makes and A$$ out of U and ME. I know a lot of you here have loads of experience with lighting care to help? nuff said. Any input or help is welcomed. Assistance as well. [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] [ 05 December 2001: Message edited by: DJ88 ]  | 
		
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		Hi, 
	You can rent them from any professional camera place. Kerrisdale Cameras, Broadway Cameras and etc...might have them. OR...if you have an SLR with a good fast lens...then you can use that. The thing you'll need a gray card to make an accurate measurement. How about this...setup your camera to take a picture of your reef. Set the camera to be same for every shot...and just change the lights. Any "noticable" change in lighting should be seen in the pictures. - Victor. [ 05 December 2001: Message edited by: reefburnaby ]  | 
		
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		Thanks Victor. 
	So everyone knows I am not looking to bash any one company. I just want hard numbers I can look at.  | 
		
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		Good idea Victor. I will do that to supplement the data collected.  
	Because I have seen posts where lighting was comparead and some people were so set in their ways they wouldn't see an obvious difference.  | 
		
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		I am going to go look around for a light meter today to see if I can find one for cheep that will do the job.. if I find one I will let you know. 
	Steve  | 
		
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		try a Hydroponic's company they have many devices such as light meters and pH testers, etc. 
	Patrick  | 
		
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		DSP, FFT's 
	[img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] EEEEEEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol.. man I can cringe some days at those acronyms.. lol  | 
		
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		Well guys, 
	I am gonna do it.. I will be buying a few ballasts over the next little while and am going to start measuring everything I can with them. I have access to a lot of equipment thanks to my instructors at BCIT. And will look into renting or buying a light meter of some sort. I just want to know what the real numbers are.. None of this guessing.. Anyone want in on this to help? I will probably be buying a PFO ballast soon as well as a couple from albrite. Victor cna you help me with those numbers I need? I want to drive 3 95W VHO lamps. They will all be actinic. Or a combination of VHO lamps It will be the same for all ballasts. Let me know.  | 
		
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		You could always ask Dana Riddle.  There is a very real chance he's already done this work.  I don't think Sanjay messed around with any types of florescents but you never know.  It wouldn't hurt to ask him as well.  Sanjay often shows up on #reefs . 
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		true..  very true.. I jstu want to see some numbers.. and once I get somethign in my head I cna't get rid of it till I know the answer..  
	grrrr..  | 
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