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nrosdal 07-25-2013 06:51 PM

Poll: What size DC pump wouuld you want?
 
If you were in the market for a Controlled DC return pump that is new and exciting. What size would you want?

spit.fire 07-25-2013 06:58 PM

i hit the wrong one.... id say as large as i could get as they are controllable so if i ever decide i need more flow, or less flow, the option is a button away.

on my frag system i went with the largest one i could get at the time and its nice because i can power all my reactors, and use it as a return at the same time. If i decide to go a different route with my reactors i can simply dial the pump down

daplatapus 07-26-2013 04:05 AM

I voted larger. I have 12'-14' of head to overcome for a 210.

gregzz4 07-26-2013 04:15 AM

I voted smaller as I don't need much more than 4000lph

I am on the fence, but am interested in a DC pump to replace my Eheim 1262

mark 07-26-2013 10:24 PM

love to get a DC pump for their efficiency won't need to be controllable but 1000gph at 14-15' be great

eli@fijireefrock.com 07-26-2013 10:30 PM

Would love to get my hands on a few DC wave pumps for tanls as large as 10ft X 7ft X 36" high...that said my vote goes to larger is better..lol.

Alberta-newb 07-27-2013 12:08 AM

My vote is larger as well (would love to run a big closed loop with a couple). I'm also waiting for someone to release a pressure rated DC pump for aquariums (they exist in other applications). Be nice to have one that could run a Beckett skimmer and or eductors.

Francis

nrosdal 07-27-2013 01:02 AM

I was thinking bigger would be popular and was just told that 12000 is the biggest they can do for the time being(in DC).

But i did squeeze some numbers outa them. Would be nice to have a graph of where the head drops off... but the head is looking the same or better then most others out there at the moment. Not to mention the power usage is coming in quite low.

MODEL DC-6000 DC-9000 DC-12000
Valtage 24V 24V 24V
Watts 40W 70W 85W
max draw 6000L/H 9000L/H 12000L/H
max Head 11.8ft 14.1ft 15.75ft

nrosdal 07-31-2013 05:22 AM

Got testers in and figured i would show a few pics.

This is the dc12000:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...ps49e5230a.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...pse0f19390.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...ps1cb899fb.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...ps1d16aff9.jpg

daplatapus 07-31-2013 05:37 AM

If my math is right, that's only roughly 400 gph for the 1200 with 14 feet of head. Too little for my needs :(

nrosdal 07-31-2013 05:56 AM

Head is definitely better then the first gen dc pumps out there and pretty much the same as the new rlss ones that are coming. It would be nice if someone would get a larger dc pump with high head made for folks with the 2nd floor tanks. When i was playing with it i gave it about 9ft of head and it was still coming out pretty good. Have it running on my tank now and it is quite a performer and same sound as the dc5000 it replaced (little to none).

nrosdal 07-31-2013 06:20 AM

Made a quick video when it got here. Will make something better once i re plumb my tank (just have it temporarily sitting in the sump running right now).

http://youtu.be/5Bcy5ZmgRkM

nrosdal 08-05-2013 12:40 AM

I have had a dc12000 running for a bit now and my impressions are the following:


pros:

-very powerful
-1.5" in and out allows for hooking up proper sized plumbing and not losing head by reducing right out of the gate.
-soft start ramps up after power loss or when coming back from feed mode.
-feed mode @ 10min
-control chip in controller (not the pump) which will allow for modding pump to be controlled by reef angel/apex/ect..
-value for the cost is great.

cons:

there is a hum which was mostly eliminated when i unattached return to aquarium from the wall it was vibrating against. But is louder then the RLSS dc5000 it replaced (not sure how it would compare to other pumps of similar size as i have always ran a dc5000). But there is definitely a hum that i am ok with but may not be ok for someone with a dead silent system.





I have had a few requests for a picture of the control box open so people can figure out how to mod for full control. So here it is:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...psc415d115.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...ps2f8553ca.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...ps597f1e18.jpg

mike31154 08-05-2013 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrosdal (Post 834956)
Head is definitely better then the first gen dc pumps out there and pretty much the same as the new rlss ones that are coming. It would be nice if someone would get a larger dc pump with high head made for folks with the 2nd floor tanks. When i was playing with it i gave it about 9ft of head and it was still coming out pretty good. Have it running on my tank now and it is quite a performer and same sound as the dc5000 it replaced (little to none).

Panworld has actually been manufacturing DC pumps for some time now. The problem is there's no Canadian distributor as far as I know. Perhaps an astute sponsor as yourself might get in contact with them & see what could be done in that regard. For folks with high head applications the NH-40PX-D or NH-50PX-D-Z might do the job. Links to performance charts from the Panworld Americas site follow below. They also make some nice smaller DC pumps, so all the bases are covered, so to speak. Panworld AC pumps already have a solid reputation with most salt water hobbyists that use them. The founder of the company was a former engineer with Iwaki, so the quality & support is definitely there.

http://www.panworldamericas.com/PX-D/Hz/A3400014.pdf
http://www.panworldamericas.com/PX-D/Hz/A3400015.pdf

Note that the performance charts are in gallons/liters per minute so you need to multiply by 60 to get GPH/LPH.

mseepman 08-05-2013 06:28 AM

If I'm doing the math right on the Panworld...the flow seems almost nonexistent. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

I got the 9000 series version of the Jebao DC pump and it does very well. There is a hum that I'm hoping will diminish after a handful of days in use like it does in many other pumps. Overall build quality seems quite good. If they made a 20000 I would buy it in a heartbeat.


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