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gregzz4 06-01-2013 04:54 AM

Doser Container Magnetic Stirrers
 
Until I make the switch to 2-part ...
I'm using Seachem Reef Builder and Reef Calcium Advantage in my doser containers
I've found that if the stuff isn't mixed while it's being dosed, it doesn't do what it should as it's all settled on the bottom. So, I made some stirrers

I used a couple of $10 computer fans that were laying around, a couple of 3/8" flat washers, a couple of magnets from a computer hard drive, some super glue, a couple of food storage containers, a couple of PTFE Lab Grade stirring bars, and a pair of 12vdc power supplies

I control the mixers with my RKE using multi-timers that stir the goods for 1 min every 15 mins over the period of my dosing

I'll know in a couple of days whether or not this solves my problem, but, in the meantime, here's how to make these :smile:

I peeled off the labels on the fans, cleaned the surfaces with alcohol, and glued the flat washers as close to centered as I could, before the glue dried, and felt no vibrations
I needed the washers as the magnets are strong enough to lift the fans out of their proper operating location. Your fans may vary with the kind of magnets you use.
Next, I glued the magnets and, again, centered them as best I could before the glue dried
Basically, place the magnet, turn the fan on and adjust the magnet until it's as vibration-free as possible

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...psb3f1c06f.jpg

I lucked out at the dollar store when I found some food storage containers that, when flipped upside down, fit the bases of my doser containers perfectly
I mounted the fans inside after cutting out holes for the magnets as they are proud above the fans' profiles

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps8c66d27e.jpg

Fans mounted inside the containers

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps0f209628.jpg

Wired and ready to go

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...psb7c49fd8.jpg

Temporary doser station setup
I'm using glass strips for spacers until the new bars arrive and I re-adjust things
I'm thinking about a different way to mount the fans and make them adjustable - long screws and double nuts etc. I'll report back when it's done

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps0db4f2a0.jpg



I don't have the e-bay mixing bars yet, so I'm using a piece of steel (cut nail) temporarily
Once the bars arrive, I'll have to adjust the distance between the fan containers and the doser containers so the fans will turn on their own when started
I found that, even with a 2 penny nail, the fans can't turn without at least a 1/4" gap between the magnets and the doser containers
You'll see what I mean if you make your own
Adjusting the gap is important as too close and the fan won't start ... too far away and the bar won't spin

They work for now, so I know I'll get them to work once the bars arrive :mrgreen:

Hopefully, once it's all set up properly, I'll have more consistent dosing

lastlight 06-01-2013 06:17 AM

now that's creative! love it =)

gregzz4 06-01-2013 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 822363)
now that's creative! love it =)

Thanks Brett :biggrin:

I stole the idea off the web, but I'll take credit for posting it here :mrgreen:

windcoast reefs 06-01-2013 07:00 AM

I've had many many hours in the lab, yet for some reason I never thought of that!

Great job!

gregzz4 06-01-2013 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windcoast reefs (Post 822368)
I've had many many hours in the lab, yet for some reason I never thought of that!

Great job!

Aw shucks :redface:

michika 06-01-2013 06:57 PM

This is awesome.

spit.fire 06-01-2013 08:41 PM

Someone did something similar to this on bcaquaria, pretty cool idea but I'm just wondering what you can use inside the containers for a non corrosive piece that's magnetic

gregzz4 06-01-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spit.fire (Post 822455)
Someone did something similar to this on bcaquaria, pretty cool idea but I'm just wondering what you can use inside the containers for a non corrosive piece that's magnetic

The PTFE stirring bars I linked above are lab grade, coated metal

gregzz4 06-07-2013 04:20 AM

I received the stirrer bars. They are actually magnetic. I expected them to be plain metal
No worries as they still work with my setup

I grabbed some long screws from our assortment and was able to adjust the distance between the hard drive magnets and the stirrer bars so they are quiet enough and work properly
The other nice thing is the magnets can't lift the fans against the doser containers as the screws are there to stop any movement

Having these mixers running has stabilized my Alk and Ca levels, so I'm very pleased

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps84a3ca49.jpg

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps6b211dc5.jpg

And even though it wasn't planned as I had these fans in a box, the LEDs are a nice 'ON' indicator :smile:

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps5561f25e.jpg

gregzz4 06-07-2013 04:39 AM

Forgot to add ...

I'm looking for some glass 2L jars, preferrably with plastic lids
This will make the stirrer bars silent
They need to be no more than 5" dia, so the hunt is on

Again, I'll report back if I change anything

Jakegr 06-07-2013 06:24 AM

Very innovative!

babnika 06-07-2013 06:37 AM

vlasic pickle jar 2.25l 5" diameter no plastic lid though. Walmart or Superstore that I know of

gregzz4 06-08-2013 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babnika (Post 823928)
vlasic pickle jar 2.25l 5" diameter no plastic lid though. Walmart or Superstore that I know of

Thanks for the tip ... you're thinking like me. Buy food, get free mixing jars :wink:

babnika 06-08-2013 03:12 AM

lol . I just bye the jars. Pickles are in them as a free bonus. Great marketing on there behave. I wish other manufacturers fallow suit . Lost reactor I bout had nothing in it. I was hopping for wine gums .How disappointing . I can barely wait to see what is in the new protean skimmer when I upgrade

monocus 06-08-2013 06:49 AM

jars
 
i have the large glass jars,but with metal lids

gregzz4 07-05-2013 03:33 AM

Found some dollar store jars
They're glass with plated plastic lids
I needed the plastic lids to drill holes for intake pipes

Here's a quick vid You may need to turn your volume up as it's that quiet

I've changed the mixer timers. They run for 1 min every 10 mins
Seems to be working well, and the glass is much quieter than the original plastic containers

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...psdb7e413f.jpg

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...psb10913d3.jpg

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...pseca37a98.jpg

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps8468349c.jpg

tang daddy 07-05-2013 04:02 PM

The green led makes it look like love potion #9 or cool aid....

Nice touch!

lastlight 07-05-2013 04:16 PM

while your diy is admirable it'd be easier to just pickup some BRS chems. Mine mix crystal clear and only the alk has the slightest bit of cloud to it by the time my gallon jug is depleted. no mixing required lol =)

gregzz4 07-06-2013 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tang daddy (Post 830196)
The green led makes it look like love potion #9 or cool aid....

Nice touch!

Thanks Chris. It wasn't on purpose as the fans were just kicking around

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 830199)
while your diy is admirable it'd be easier to just pickup some BRS chems. Mine mix crystal clear and only the alk has the slightest bit of cloud to it by the time my gallon jug is depleted. no mixing required lol =)

As I stated in the beginning I'm going to use up the Seachem stuff I have before I jump into 2 part
Thanks for the info though ... good to know it's easier to work with mixing-wise :smile:


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