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maron6977 02-12-2013 03:21 AM

It's too loud !!!
 
I just purchased a Aqueon 120g w/dual overflows . I was so excited to finally get something that I thought would be dead quiet but it's Not. Before I spend a bunch of money that I don't have, I thought I'd ask you guys & gals for advise.
So the setup : dual overflows w/durso drains - thru 1" corrugated hose ( THIS IS WHERE THE NOISE HAPPENS ) - into an Eshopps dual filter sock holder, on the sump .
Now I'm running a quiet one 4000 return pump - do I need more flow to fill the drain hoses ?
Or
Should I put ball valves on drain hoses just before sock holder ???
Also 1 of the drain hoses makes a curly Q to get it into the bulkhead on the sock holder.

To be honest the noise isn't too loud but water trickling thru drain hoses , I thought I'd like to eliminate the extra noise if I could .
Thanks Mark

Mike-fish 02-12-2013 03:28 AM

I would swap the lines out the either PVC or vinyl hose as the coragated hose will remain noisy no matter what. How did you do the dursos

maron6977 02-12-2013 03:41 AM

The durso's are a kit that comes with the tank - I think . I bought it used but saw the exact same thing as a complete setup at lfs.
Are there different ways to do the durso's???

Mike-fish 02-12-2013 04:00 AM

This is one of the two for my 175g that I shut down after Xmas plead excuse the fact that its far from clean. http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/...pscf14fc51.jpg here is a link to the web site http://www.dursostandpipes.com/ I've ran them on all my tanks and love them dead silent too. Also at the filter socks try to minimize that open air drop as it makes a bunch of noise.

maron6977 02-12-2013 04:13 AM

Ya , that's what mine look like . I've inserted small pieces of PVC pipe in bottom side of bulkheads in filter socks to minimize water noise into sock .
I think I'd be happy if I can eliminate noise thru hoses .
I'll try new hose & maybe throw some ball valves in to try .

maron6977 02-12-2013 04:17 AM

So is your water noise dead quiet from overflow to sump ?
Did you install ball valves to control flow ?

Mike-fish 02-12-2013 04:33 AM

On that tank I didn't have ball valves on the drains but on the new 270g I have valves but they always remain wide open I just have them there as a insurance policy. There is no noise throughout the system all I hear is the skimmer and pumps. My over flows are combined capable of 4000+ gph. Almost double my return pumps so I have a huge safety net.

monocus 02-12-2013 07:10 AM

drain
 
switch your dursos for stockmans .they take up less room easier to clean and get rid of the corrugated for a smooth drain.i wouldnt bother with ball valves on the drain and try to flow the drains as direct to the sump as possable

maron6977 02-13-2013 12:54 AM

Well , I've spent all day driving around getting wrong fittings , fittings that didn't work & spending money I don't have ! Finally I got all the fittings & re-plumbed so it all fit & looked pretty . I start it up & it's the same thing if not noisier . So I cracked a beer & relaxed for a bit so I didn't kill someone ! Then I thought, I didn't try the kiss method (keep it simple stupid). So took all the prettiness I just created off & started again .
There are 1 1/4" barbs off the durso, so I attached 1 1/4" smooth hose & ran it right into the socks . Started it up & it's a little quieter then when I started but not silent !!!
Maybe I'm asking for too much or am I missing something ???
Still it just sounds like water trickling thru the hoses & maybe durso .

Mike-fish 02-13-2013 01:30 AM

how big of hole a the top of the durso. how far does the water drop going into the overflow

maron6977 02-13-2013 01:40 AM

The hole @ top of durso looks like approx. 1/8 - 3/16 .
The water drop into overflow is approx. 1" .
On the bright side I found my missing cleaner wrasse in the overflow !

Mike-fish 02-13-2013 02:11 AM

figures that where he went my clowns love it in there, for future reference if a fish goes mia check the overflows and the sump one of those inspection mirrors comes in really handy for that. is the outlet below operating level of the sump. does the level in the overflow fluctuate much i'm pulling straws now

monocus 02-13-2013 08:56 AM

durso
 
is your air vent adjustable on your durso or is it a hole drilled into the top.if it's just a hole ,try putting a mini ball valve on top to adjust the air

maron6977 02-14-2013 03:38 AM

The vent on top of the durso is a nipple ! I could attach a piece of air line then control by pinching but I've been listening & reading & decided I'm happy with it !!! It's quiet but not silent . I think I'd switch to Herbies if I want it silent . So I can live with quiet right now & if it still bugs me later on I'll switch . Thanks for the input .
Mark

spit.fire 02-14-2013 04:07 AM

Scrap the stock overflow, do your return line over the back of the tank and install herbies

The Guy 02-14-2013 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spit.fire (Post 793110)
Scrap the stock overflow, do your return line over the back of the tank and install herbies

For sure go with herbie's if you want it totally silent! :smile:

StirCrazy 02-14-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maron6977 (Post 792649)
Started it up & it's a little quieter then when I started but not silent !!!
Maybe I'm asking for too much or am I missing something ???
Still it just sounds like water trickling thru the hoses & maybe durso .

you know your never going to get "Silent" with a overflow set up, some oare closer to silent than others, but none are totaly silent. it all depends on the other ambiant noise in the room. want your trickiling water to be silent then get a pump that makes a little more noise and you won't hear the trickle anymore :mrgreen:

the best noise reducing pipe I have found is flexable PVC, its softer, more flexable and thicker, so it deadens the noise more. can try using that and replacing the PVC piping with it. befor you replace regular piping though you can go to a hardware store and buy that foam pipe insulation and use that to see if it makes a difference.

Steve


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