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reefwars 01-22-2013 06:22 PM

reefwars 75g ugraded bonsai tank build
 
well the 25g was nice but its grown out and im officially out of room , my fish are too big, corals too many and space very sparse.

heres the link to my 25g bonsai tank build have a look through if you never seen it before its def pic heavy lol

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ghlight=bonsai

the little tank was a complete success right from the beginning, it houses some very high end corals and is a full mixed reef including nps,lps and softies. the equipment however and the tank its self is pretty ghetto and is admittably small. the other downside the tank needs hours a day in maintanance:(

my bonsai tree max dimensions are 16l x 14"w and 18" tall....the tank is 18 x 18 x 18 .....you can see how it got frustrating room wise.


the current 25g specs:


25g cube
18 x 18 x 18
internal con=rner overflow
drilled for durso overflow
mag9.5
asmg2 skimmer with mesh mod
tlf reactor 150 with hc gfo
mp10
koralia1050
2 x brs peialistic dosers
1 x eheim jager 100w heater
10-15lbs liverock mounted on pvc structure
radion g1 xr-30w
ghetto sump 36 x 12 x 14h no baffles with liverock


system is tied into a 50g fragtank making the total water volume 100g including sump


out with the old and in with the new:mrgreen::mrgreen:




new tank specs :

75g cube
30 x 30 x 20h
eurobraced
clear silicone
external overflow
drilled for herbie with extra emergency drain
26 x 26 x 18h sump
30 x 30 x 30 steel stand powder coated black
rx-u1.5 vertex reactor for gfo fed by eheim compact+ 3000
rx-u 1.5 vertex reactor for rox carbon
vertex uf-1.5 for bio pellets fed by mag5
mp10x 2
radion g1 xr-30w x 2
speedwave 2640 dc return pump
apex lite controller
2 x brs perialistic dosers
skimmer to be decided( either rlss r10-i or reef-octopuss diablo both dc skimmers)
tunze ATO
50g water resevoir with secondary float switches for emergency back up.
filtersock shelf for 7" filter sock
custom light hanger for dual radions , adjustable in all directions.

all equipment is brand new , this setup is being made with automation in mind and no upgrades anytime soon, also this tank will not share the frag system but will be isolated to its own loop.



i decided to go with concepts raceway sump basically instead of water travelling from point a-b , its forced through a maze of over unders and notches to maximize the amount of time water stays in the sump, a very good design that we try to incorporate in wider sumps like this:)

tank was built myself from 10mm float at concept aquatics.


right now i have all i need i have most of it set up and im shooting to do the transfer tomorrow as i took two days off to finish this up, right now today i am finishing the plumbing and doing a water leak test(wish me luck) then tonight it gets filled with saltwater and tomorrow i do the transfer to the new tank, no extra rock is being added just the existing bonsai tree.

i will not be going with the glass sand bed this time around as i want to add my wrasses to the new set up.


my current livestock to be transfered:


1 xcopperband butterfly
3 x pj cardinals
1 x red and blue mandarin
1 x scooter dragonette
1 x green mandarin
2 x trojan designer clowns
1 x black leopard wrasse
1 x mystery wrasse
1 x melanarus wrasse
1 x blue leopard wrasse
1 x fireshrimp
12 x peppermint shrimp
2 x harlequin shrimp


currently there are no plans to add anything else livestock wise , maybe a bartlett anthias to replace mine that died a while ago, basically just more room for the fish and upgraded equipment.

on christmas i passed this tank over to my girlfriend who taken care of it since and has done an amazing job both with the fish and the corals, shes proved herself worthy of owing the bonsai, with that said this cube will be a pair of cubes that we are doing the other cube which will be mine will be fully sps dominant, the idea is the two tanks are in two corners of the living room.

since my gf is taking the bonsai ive decided to get rid of the sps and some of the hard to keep nps corals and ive made the new setup as simple and automated as possibe to make it easier on her.

her tank will remain zoanthid dominated with lps and some hardy nps corals.


pics tonight after i finish the plumbing ....yay lol

cheers

denny

reefwars 01-22-2013 06:22 PM

now back to some plumbing:P

Seriak 01-22-2013 06:28 PM

I have been looking at those Diablo DC Skimmers and I think I am going to order one with the self cleaning head when they finally come out. They look amazing.

Following along!

lpsreefer 01-22-2013 06:35 PM

What! No yellow tang! Thought that was your favourite fishie!

reefwars 01-22-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seriak (Post 785347)
I have been looking at those Diablo DC Skimmers and I think I am going to order one with the self cleaning head when they finally come out. They look amazing.

Following along!

yeah they are going to be a hot item , we have some coming already in the works:)

after using a dc pump fed skimmer im completely in love with them , we will see how the diablo compares , i got a feeling its going to blow the others away:)

Seriak 01-22-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattjoly85 (Post 785348)
What! No yellow tang! Thought that was your favourite fishie!

Yeah with that sized tank you could have at least 10 of them. ;)

reefwars 01-22-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattjoly85 (Post 785348)
What! No yellow tang! Thought that was your favourite fishie!

shouldnt you be working lol :PPPPP

Leah 01-22-2013 06:51 PM

Pitchers!

JDigital 01-22-2013 06:59 PM

Radions eh? They're alright I guess...... :lol:


I agree with Leah though! We need photographic evidence of this so called upgrade.

reefwars 01-22-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leah (Post 785356)
Pitchers!


ok fine lol

heres some assembly pics to keep you all interested untill i get it leak tested tonight:)

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4206.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4207.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4208.jpg

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http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4210.jpg

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http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4235.jpg

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reefwars 01-22-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 785360)
Radions eh? They're alright I guess...... :lol:


I agree with Leah though! We need photographic evidence of this so called upgrade.

its the gf's tank...i aint buying her ghls's lol.....thats for my cube;)

lastlight 01-22-2013 07:19 PM

looking great boss... and built it yourself too!

btw no sump design is going to slow the water down it still enters and exits the thing at the same rate. you're just making it more of an adventure for any pods taking the trip through it... which is mighty thoughtful of you =)

lpsreefer 01-22-2013 07:24 PM

Lunch break. Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 785352)
shouldnt you be working lol :PPPPP


lpsreefer 01-22-2013 07:25 PM

You going bare bottom?

reefwars 01-22-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 785367)
looking great boss... and built it yourself too!

btw no sump design is going to slow the water down it still enters and exits the thing at the same rate. you're just making it more of an adventure for any pods taking the trip through it... which is mighty thoughtful of you =)

yes flow is still flow , im giving it dedicated zones to pass through instead of shared zones:)

funny about the pods , so far all my nudibranches have made it from my display to the sump then through the return pump and up to the fragtank, they are about 1" and some 3-4" lol in my gfo reactor lives mysid shrimp , not purposely but they got sucked in and now theres lots of them in there , i watch as they swim around and i look down and think how the hell those little buggers made it through the tumbling gfo and still live :)

reefwars 01-22-2013 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattjoly85 (Post 785371)
You going bare bottom?

no ill be doing a sandbed , im gonna do a mix med substrate on the right large substrate on the left.

will prob do a larger sandbed to cover the pvc base the tree is built on.

will take some sand from my sump to help seed the sand bed faster:)

kien 01-22-2013 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattjoly85 (Post 785371)
You going bare bottom?

why are we always talking about Denny's butt?!

reefwars 01-22-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kien (Post 785375)
why are we always talking about Denny's butt?!

yeah i was gonna come back with some snazzy remark about summer and that being how i roll........then remembered im not down for that lol :P

JDigital 01-22-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 785363)
its the gf's tank...i aint buying her ghls's lol.....thats for my cube;)

Your "New Tank Specs" show Radions.. ;) Should update that.. So we don't get confused. :mrgreen:

KineticReef 01-22-2013 08:11 PM

Your tank specs are amazing. Exactly what I would do if I were to start over. The 20x20x30 dimensions are awesome! And the Ecotech Radions are sweet! I'm following along, good luck with the rest of the build!

reefwars 01-22-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 785386)
Your "New Tank Specs" show Radions.. ;) Should update that.. So we don't get confused. :mrgreen:

lol yeah thats cause shes getting the radions im getting ghls , were doing two cubes;)

mines gonna be :

36 x 32 x 20h
complete starphire
one piece eurobrace
closed loop
ghl's x 1 9maybe two if i dont like the look )
mp40 x 2
mp10 x 2
barebottom tank


yadda yadda yadda lol

sps dominant

basically in the same room will be a high nutrient system and a low nutrient system:)

best of both worlds:)


ok back to the 75g lol


dry plumbing done , electrical mounted and cleaned up and dosers mounted, gonna clean up a bunch of junk and get to finishing up gluing up the plumbing:)


also need to get some half inch pvs 90's to finish hooking up the reactors tonight:)

reefwars 01-22-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KineticReef (Post 785389)
Your tank specs are amazing. Exactly what I would do if I were to start over. The 20x20x30 dimensions are awesome! And the Ecotech Radions are sweet! I'm following along, good luck with the rest of the build!



thanks i got a liking for cube tanks , and the way i origionally designed my bonsai tree is with a cubetank in mind:)

best part is now we have a new whole side to decorate lol :P

lastlight 01-22-2013 10:14 PM

you should totally do a cube tank denny that'd be rad. these dimensions you're working with are nice too.

</jackass>

magikof7 01-22-2013 10:33 PM

Following along! This is going to be a very nice tank. :D

reefwars 01-23-2013 02:49 AM

well shes wet folks!!!

now theres no turning back , speedwave is pumping flow on the third speed , love this damn pump !!

also got the radion fired up and the apex is running.

done a power out scenario and she covers easily.

overflow is dead quiet;)


gonna let it settle for the night and add salt tomorrow morning,then its trasfer time tomorrow night :)


heres some pics as proof;)

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4242.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4243.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4244.jpg

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http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4257.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...de/IMG4258.jpg

more to come so stay tuned!!

cheers

denny

Madmak 01-23-2013 03:16 AM

No fair, that tank has Reef Angels watching over it.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/23/4u3aju5a.jpg

Skimmerking 01-23-2013 03:31 AM

Denny that is sexy u should of went 36x36x20

reefwars 01-23-2013 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skimmer King (Post 785533)
Denny that is sexy u should of went 36x36x20

thanks mike, my sps cube which im starting after this is transfered is closer to those dimensions at 36 x 32 x 20h , gotta get this one finished first though then ill do the same as this build and gather up everything i need first over time:)

Xadieu 01-23-2013 03:52 AM

Wow mp40s x2, mp10s x 2, and dc pump

Those fish gonna swim for their life lol it's going to be a roller coaster ride. Looking good Denny:razz:

gridley 01-23-2013 04:00 AM

Congrats Denny - looks good! And yes, the DC pumps are great, I'm using one on my skimmer, and one as my return pump. I'm looking forward to seeing it with livestock.

madchild 01-23-2013 04:42 AM

Nice build Denny!

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Delphinus 01-24-2013 02:50 AM

Nice handiwork! Can't wait to see it after the transfer and it's all settled in.

reefwars 01-24-2013 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 785824)
Nice handiwork! Can't wait to see it after the transfer and it's all settled in.

thanks tony , i got salt and sand in her tonight , one of two reactors hooked up ,and herbie is dialed in dead quiet holding steady.

if it settles overnight ill do the transfer tomorrow night as it took me longer than i expected to get it all running smoothy today:)

the plan is to pick the whole bonsai up and just place it in the new tank.move my mandarins temporarily to the frag tanks and the rest of the fish to the new tank:)

ruslicus 01-24-2013 04:21 AM

Denny nice set-up

riceboy 01-24-2013 04:43 AM

Nice man but I think your light is of u need to centre it with a ghl ASAP lol

reefwars 01-25-2013 02:54 PM

transfer complete
 
well its official!!

transfered the tank over last night , diidnt use one drop of water from the old tank.

heres my transfer method

a)fill tank with salt water

b) lift tree from old tank

c) drop tree in new tank

d) have cold beer



fish and corals are all happy the tree got a 100% water change. the fish are loving the extra room and the wrasses are loving the socialization , all were up and out this morning:0

now i need more coral lol


pics coming later:)

sphelps 01-25-2013 02:59 PM

If it was so quick and easy, why did it take you so long? :wink:

kien 01-25-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 786197)
well its official!!

transfered the tank over last night , diidnt use one drop of water from the old tank.

haha nice! Only you could get away with such a cowboy approach to reefing :lol:

Leah 01-25-2013 03:04 PM

They have cowboys on the moon.

reefwars 01-25-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 786199)
If it was so quick and easy, why did it take you so long? :wink:

Haha waiting for the beer to get cold;)

Well now that this tank is finished I guess its time to build my other cube tank:)))))


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