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Nano 12-19-2012 12:44 AM

clown distress
 
My female clown was just swimming around minding her own business happy blah blah... I fed the fish some nls flake, she ate then I went for supper. Come back and look, she's at the bottom breathing rapidly, and laying on the bottom...

Parameters are

Nitrate 0
nitrite 0
Ammonia 0? Slightly darker so I added some stability
Phos 0
Alk 9
Ca 420

Salinity 1.024

I don't get it, and I'm not sure what to do, everything else is fine, she's just really stressed/possibly dieing....
Also pointed a powerhead to the surface.

Only recent change was Saturday I removed half the LR from my tank that was taken over with gha so I'm cooking it. But there is still about 20lbs in the tank. Her colors normal, pattern looks good. Has one or 2 small black dots on her, but always has. I can't get a pic as she's at the back of the tank and I don't want to move her and stress her out, please help guys she's fading quick.

Nano 12-19-2012 01:14 AM

I know I'm not super well liked here guys but a little fish needs help beyond my experience.

The Grizz 12-19-2012 01:19 AM

Have you tried a fresh water dip?

Nano 12-19-2012 01:22 AM

Not sure about that one. Never done it before.

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-19-2012 01:23 AM

check your ph
you may have caused a spike by removing most of your rocks or and disturbing your sand bed.
I suggest doing a large water change whyle lights are off less stress on the fish.
Run couple extra pump heads with air line intake for extra oxygen.or run the airline through the water pumps you already have running in your system.
Good luck and hope your fish pulls through.

The Grizz 12-19-2012 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elias@caco3reef.com (Post 774809)
check your ph
you may have caused a spike by removing most of your rocks or and disturbing your sand bed.
I suggest doing a large water change whyle lights are off less stress on the fish.
Run couple extra pump heads with air line intake for extra oxygen.or run the airline through the water pumps you already have running in your system.
Good luck and hope your fish pulls through.


No sand bed in this tank Eli.

Nano 12-19-2012 01:25 AM

Thanks Eli, I'm waiting on water to mix..... Won't be ready til at least 2am and i work at 4.. going to get an airstone and pump.

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-19-2012 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nano (Post 774811)
Thanks Eli, I'm waiting on water to mix..... Won't be ready til at least 2am and i work at 4.. going to get an airstone and pump.

try oxygenating through an airline running into any of your pumps.Don't require an air stone.

Nano 12-19-2012 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elias@caco3reef.com (Post 774813)
try oxygenating through an airline running into any of your pumps.Don't require an air stone.

None of my pumps have an airline connection

Borderjumper 12-19-2012 01:40 AM

Could you have had something on your fingers when you fed? And you added stability BEORE or after she took sick?

Nano 12-19-2012 01:44 AM

Added yesterday since I removed the rock to keep things stable, and then today after she looked stressed. My hands were clean no soap residue on them or anything.

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-19-2012 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nano (Post 774817)
None of my pumps have an airline connection

Don't need connection just place one end of the tube near the intake on the pump and the other end tied or clipped or maybe taped to the outside of the tank ...

Maybe run extra carbon to remove any impurities that might have been stirred ...

Nano 12-19-2012 01:49 AM

Will do. Carbon and gfo just changed on Sunday

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-19-2012 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nano (Post 774828)
Will do. Carbon and gfo just changed on Sunday

I would do another carbon change as what you had since Sunday may have been stripped already.

Nano 12-19-2012 02:17 AM

Ph normal 8.2
Hermit crabs are moving in on her and she's still breathing. Barely. :( I'm gonna go ahead and call this one a goner.. had her over a year.


Do I wait a bit? Let her suffer? Or drip some clove oil in a cup with tank water and put her to sleep?

:(

Borderjumper 12-19-2012 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nano (Post 774833)
Ph normal 8.2
Hermit crabs are moving in on her and she's still breathing. Barely. :( I'm gonna go ahead and call this one a goner.. had her over a year.


Do I wait a bit? Let her suffer? Or drip some clove oil in a cup with tank water and put her to sleep?

:(

Do what you feel is best

Nano 12-19-2012 03:04 AM

Well thanks for the suggestions guys..

she's dead :(

Coralgurl 12-19-2012 03:12 AM

That sucks!! Sorry for your loss!

Nano 12-19-2012 03:15 AM

Thanks Sheena.. it happens it was fast though I guess..

subman 12-19-2012 03:15 AM

Sorry to hear Ken. All the other fish ok?

Nano 12-19-2012 03:18 AM

Seem to be. They're all eating and swimming around like nothing happened that's what's so weird about it. I wonder what could have caused her to die with in 2 hours after being (seemingly) fine all day...

subman 12-19-2012 03:21 AM

is it possible a chunk of food got stuck in her mouth causing her to drown?

Nano 12-19-2012 03:23 AM

Possible. It's just flake food, but its entirely possible. I just hope it wasn't brook' or some disease..

subman 12-19-2012 03:27 AM

seems unlikely it was a disease, as it came on so quickly out of the blue.

Nano 12-19-2012 03:29 AM

Yeah I suppose so.

11purewater 12-19-2012 03:30 AM

something sting her?

subman 12-19-2012 03:30 AM

crappy either way. Sorry buddy

Nano 12-19-2012 03:33 AM

It's ok thanks Jason. I'll have to break the flake up a bit in the future or switch to the small pellets. It Mau be for the best right now as the tank is lacking biofiltration.

Coralgurl 12-19-2012 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 774858)
is it possible a chunk of food got stuck in her mouth causing her to drown?

That can happen??

The Guy 12-19-2012 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nano (Post 774848)
Well thanks for the suggestions guys..

she's dead :(

Sorry for your loss, I had a freshwater fish die almost exactly the same way, just after I fed the tank, I think it got a large piece of food stuck and drown as well. That really sucks! :sad:

eli@fijireefrock.com 12-19-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 774858)
is it possible a chunk of food got stuck in her mouth causing her to drown?

Very possible..
Sorry to hear for the loss


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