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marie 11-18-2012 09:36 PM

My new obsession
 
This might even spell the end of my 120g saltwater tank on the stairs

A paludarium in the making, this is going to go into a 29g bowfront aquarium, I haven't decided if it will house dart frogs yet but killifish are a must :lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/PB180060.jpg

marie 11-18-2012 10:08 PM

Inside the aquarium

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/PB180062.jpg

Northernseacorals 11-19-2012 12:51 AM

Honestly that looks dreadful, totally unnatural; I'm pretty sure a better job could be made than monofoam.

Just saying.

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 01:14 AM

Well that was a beautifully abrasive comment :neutral:, I think it looks pretty good Marie! Will you be changing the color of the white foam by any means?

Subscribed, I'm a big fan of paludariums will you be using an ultrasonic fogger in the enclosure?

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 01:15 AM

And if I can make a suggestion, Archer fish would be a very good addition here!

marie 11-19-2012 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northernseacorals (Post 765199)
Honestly that looks dreadful, totally unnatural; I'm pretty sure a better job could be made than monofoam.

Just saying.


I totally agree :lol: but that is just the background. Foam is a lot lighter then rock and wood and can be molded and carved easily.....unfortunately I have to wait for the foam to dry before I can cut it to shape and cover it with peat moss, wood bark ect and then plant the plants

marie 11-19-2012 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 765206)
Well that was a beautifully abrasive comment :neutral:, I think it looks pretty good Marie! Will you be changing the color of the white foam by any means?

Subscribed, I'm a big fan of paludariums will you be using an ultrasonic fogger in the enclosure?

I thought of a fogger but I haven't decided for sure, there is definitely going to be a waterfall. A lot of space behind the foam is open for the pump and heater

Chaloupa 11-19-2012 05:29 AM

Can't wait to see how this evolves!!!! Foggers do look very very cool! But they get fairly warm to touch....we had an Exo Terra Fogger in our ET Waterfall, in the middle little pool and it did get quite warm..but did it ever look cool!

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 06:15 AM

The ultrasonic fogger in my Red Eye Tree Frog enclosure literally boiled the frogs alive. Certainly has to be put on a timer otherwise it superheats the water :(.

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SeaHorse_Fanatic 11-19-2012 08:23 AM

Marie,

I have friends locally who breed lots of different types of killifish. Let me know what you're interested in & I'll hook you up. I also know a couple of people who may have dartfrogs that I can ask.

Anthony

MMAX 11-19-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 765207)
And if I can make a suggestion, Archer fish would be a very good addition here!

Wouldn't Archer fish be a bit too big for this size tank?

Chaloupa 11-19-2012 02:56 PM

Zoaelite...we did the same thing as it heated the water so much! We never got our frogs that hot...but it was too hot! Now we just have a "Monsoon" automatic waterer on the terrarium..they do very well that way! But we stopped carrying Dart Frogs and keep Red Eye Tree Frogs instead...love them!

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MMAX (Post 765297)
Wouldn't Archer fish be a bit too big for this size tank?

With a heater & pump in there I would say 1-2 fish would be okay, they usually stay small (between 5-10cm) but can be found much larger in nature. Nothing like watching one of them nail a cricket 8" out of the water!

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Originally Posted by Chaloupa (Post 765314)
Zoaelite...we did the same thing as it heated the water so much! We never got our frogs that hot...but it was too hot! Now we just have a "Monsoon" automatic waterer on the terrarium..they do very well that way! But we stopped carrying Dart Frogs and keep Red Eye Tree Frogs instead...love them!

Agreed, one of my favorites hands down! I would also say RETF's are easier to breed if your ever looking to get into it Marie? This set up would be perfect, all you need is a large leafed plant that hangs over the water, a little frog love music and your good to go :razz:.

marie 11-19-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 765377)



Agreed, one of my favorites hands down! I would also say RETF's are easier to breed if your ever looking to get into it Marie? This set up would be perfect, all you need is a large leafed plant that hangs over the water, a little frog love music and your good to go :razz:.

I've been reading up on the red eyed tree frogs.... the only problem? I'm pretty sure killifish would eat the tadpoles :lol:

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 08:16 PM

That could be problem for sure, people usually separate the tadpoles into a separate tank to ensure proper water quality though.

At the point of Amplexus watch for egg laying, once the eggs are laid remove the leaf and suspend it over a 10g tank with life support system. The tadpoles will hatch, fall right into the tank and you are good to raise baby tree frogs!!!

I call first dibs on babies :razz:!

Delphinus 11-19-2012 08:28 PM

Couldn't you pipe in the fog from outside the tank? Or does it still get too warm that way?

(Mind you seems to me makes perfect sense to still put the fogger on a timer.)

Can't wait to see this evolve. :) One day I hope to try this too!

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 765418)
Couldn't you pipe in the fog from outside the tank? Or does it still get too warm that way?

(Mind you seems to me makes perfect sense to still put the fogger on a timer.)

Can't wait to see this evolve. :) One day I hope to try this too!

That wouldn't be a bad idea, just means you need to set up a water reservoir above the tank and direct the mist through the top.

They do have auto systems for pretty cheap that accomplish this, I found only the water that the fogger was submerged in heated, not the mist itself.

marie 11-19-2012 09:02 PM

First layer of coconut fiber added.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/PB190065.jpg

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 09:03 PM

Verrryyy nice, Marie do you plan on having live plants in here as well?

marie 11-19-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 765448)
Verrryyy nice, Marie do you plan on having live plants in here as well?


Yep, that is the main point of the project actually :lol:. At the water line where you can still see the egg crate through the coconut fiber will be bog plants and carnivorous plants and higher up, there are holes in the foam where ferns, mosses and other plants will be

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 765452)
Yep, that is the main point of the project actually :lol:. At the water line where you can still see the egg crate through the coconut fiber will be bog plants and carnivorous plants and higher up, there are holes in the foam where ferns, mosses and other plants will be

Certain carnivorous plants will eat your frogs if they are small enough :neutral:.

marie 11-19-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoaelite (Post 765462)
Certain carnivorous plants will eat your frogs if they are small enough :neutral:.

hmmm, Good point, hadn't thought of that...

Zoaelite 11-19-2012 09:31 PM

Only reason I know this is I JUST watched a venus fly trap eat a frog on Oasis HD.

Best channel ever...

marie 11-24-2012 01:19 AM

Can't say I'm overly thrilled with the results but for a first attempt it's ok. It still needs gravel in the bottom, cleaning up a bit and time for the plants to settle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/PB230067.jpg

Northernseacorals 11-24-2012 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marie (Post 766953)
Can't say I'm overly thrilled with the results but for a first attempt it's ok. It still needs gravel in the bottom, cleaning up a bit and time for the plants to settle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l/PB230067.jpg

Oh that looks much more fabulous :wink: I was afraid you were going to leave the awful cream coloured foam uncovered.

Will be some happy critters in there.


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