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lastlight 10-24-2012 03:12 PM

you never know when having an empty 400 gallon will come in handy
 
I'm glad my tank is still in my basement because last night sometime a copper water pipe developed a pinhole leak in it and started flooding the ceiling above my old fish room. You can see the waterproof paint I used holds water too lol. I had used the kids' sled to funnel it into my old tank until I knew wtf was going on. I am very glad the reef was not still around for this. as it would have caught the dirty water into my overflow box undetected for some time.

The random hole in the pipe is not even where a welded connection is. Anyways it leaked about 80 gallons in the past 8 hours into the makeshift plumbing I setup that is feeding the tank. The feed lines for 4 other condos run thru the ceiling this is not even my own water pipe! And I thought the hot water tank blowing up on the other side of the basement last month was bad.

In preparation to cut my tank apart I had removed all of the silicone in the tank not directly between pieces of glass so this tank cannot be trusted to hold 400 gallons. This morning I must bail out this water into a drain so that it can continue to hold until a plumber gets here today!

The joys of post-reefing!

http://www.fishbrains.net/images/404/leak1.jpg

http://www.fishbrains.net/images/404/leak2.jpg

http://www.fishbrains.net/images/404/leak3.jpg

riceboy 10-24-2012 03:25 PM

i would take that as a sign that the tank needs water man

Marlin65 10-24-2012 03:38 PM

I have had that happen as well pipe gets old and then gets pin holes.

FishyFishy! 10-24-2012 03:40 PM

Holy lucky!

Borderjumper 10-24-2012 03:51 PM

I have copper pipes in my building and have had the pin hole leaks. talking with the plumber he said over the years the friction of the water moving thru the pipes actually thins the walls of the pipe causing pin holes. You should suggest that the pipe be replaced instead of repaired if the pipe has thinned, it could happen again on either side of the repair if the pipe is thin.

Delphinus 10-24-2012 04:04 PM

Ok that paint is impressive. What did you use?! lol.

Sorry about the mess and bad luck and stuff though. I can't imagine what nightmare that would have resulted in a running tank.

lastlight 10-24-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Borderjumper (Post 757854)
I have copper pipes in my building and have had the pin hole leaks. talking with the plumber he said over the years the friction of the water moving thru the pipes actually thins the walls of the pipe causing pin holes. You should suggest that the pipe be replaced instead of repaired if the pipe has thinned, it could happen again on either side of the repair if the pipe is thin.

There's only 5 pipes running through there that's re-assuring! I'll suggest that to the plumber. Initially he's placing a clamp with a rubber stop over the pinhole. Come to think of it I'm sure it's similar to the thing we get with ro/di kits.

He will need access to my neighbors unit if the pipe itself needs replacing and access to the unit with the shutoffs as well. Fun times!

lastlight 10-24-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 757860)
Ok that paint is impressive. What did you use?! lol.

Sorry about the mess and bad luck and stuff though. I can't imagine what nightmare that would have resulted in a running tank.

2 coats of Kilz Premium! Love the stuff.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 10-24-2012 06:20 PM

Ouch. Good luck man.

hillegom 10-25-2012 04:05 AM

At my father-in law's apartment, they replaced all the copper pipes in the building. What a big expense. Apparently all the pipes were made by wolverine.
They went out of business because they made faulty thin pipes. Were trying to save money!!

Hopefully thats not the case here.
Good luck with the cleanup

fishoholic 10-25-2012 04:11 AM

Yuck!

Snappy 10-25-2012 05:34 AM

Bummer! Don't waste time bailing, swing by and borrow my sump pump.

mike31154 10-25-2012 02:42 PM

Good to know major disaster averted. Has me thinking now. My house built in the '60s with copper pipes. Wonder if I should start thinking about replacing them? A year after I moved in I started noticing a 'water running' sound whenever my ear was close to the water meter. Kind of let it slide for a while since the sensitive little red pointer on the meter that shows you if you have a leaky tap or something wasn't moving. Eventually it bugged me enough that I investigated & found a wet spot in my front yard. Started digging down & sure enough ended up with a pool in the hole I dug. Front yard slopes down to the Avenue & I dug down a couple of feet before I figured out I wasn't going to reach the feed pipe digging by hand. Called contractor & he ended up digging down almost 10 feet until the pipe was uncovered. Repaired it with a pvc fitting. Apparently the fill they used in my yard had a lot of trash in it & a piece of metal resting on the copper pipe appears to have caused the corrosion. Dissimilar metals don't play nice when in contact over the years. It was a pinhole as well, but with city pressure at 120-130 psi I imagine a fair bit of water was lost through there. No idea how long the hole was there, could well have been there already when I bought the place in 2004. I think I had it repaired in '05 or '06. Also makes one wonder how many other leaks there are in a city or municipal system that go undetected for years.

lastlight 10-25-2012 03:29 PM

The temporary fix is in place. It was a gear clamp over a little strip of rubber lol. I felt like a dumbass; I had a fix laying around the hole time.

So it's stopped leaking until they can get it properly fixed. Thanks for the offer greg I ended up siphoning it to the laundry tub with a garden hose. Never thought I'd miss all my pumps and hoses for TWO reasons :razz:

kien 10-25-2012 03:47 PM

This actually does remind me that last year a copper pipe leading into our water meter sprung a pin hole leak as well. The rest of our house is that plastic piping but the piping around the meter and into the meter itself was copper and that's what sprung a leak. The meter was the responsibility of the city so I just called them up and they came and replaced the meter.

reefgirl189 10-25-2012 03:49 PM

What a mess. Good thing for smart thinking on your part. That pic of the paint stretching is unreal.

lastlight 10-25-2012 04:00 PM

If I ever need to run an ro/di again, I think I know of 4 possible pipes to connect to though :lol:

Paying for your own water is so over-rated!

Skimmerking 10-25-2012 05:40 PM

why not do a I dont want to use this F word here,:neutral: ok here is goes.


FRESH WATER AND DO OSCARS, or something

Funky_Fish14 10-25-2012 06:54 PM

Brett, I havent been on here for awhile and just found out about your shutdown. Really sorry to hear man. Hope things are alright with family though!

Glad the fix will get worked out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kien (Post 758192)
This actually does remind me that last year a copper pipe leading into our water meter sprung a pin hole leak as well. The rest of our house is that plastic piping but the piping around the meter and into the meter itself was copper and that's what sprung a leak. The meter was the responsibility of the city so I just called them up and they came and replaced the meter.

In our house, all the piping is the new plastic stuff, but the connections to and from the well, pressure tank, and house supply, are all copper. Guess where the leak happened? In the copper ofcourse. (Right between well and pressure tank) This new plastic stuff sure seems reliable so far. I dont hear of it leaking often, and repairing it is a lot easier. (I guess its not 'new' but its more recently used)

Cheers,

Chris

lastlight 10-25-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky_Fish14 (Post 758259)
Brett, I havent been on here for awhile and just found out about your shutdown. Really sorry to hear man. Hope things are alright with family though!

Glad the fix will get worked out!



In our house, all the piping is the new plastic stuff, but the connections to and from the well, pressure tank, and house supply, are all copper. Guess where the leak happened? In the copper ofcourse. (Right between well and pressure tank) This new plastic stuff sure seems reliable so far. I dont hear of it leaking often, and repairing it is a lot easier. (I guess its not 'new' but its more recently used)

Cheers,

Chris

Yeah and thieves won't bother to jack plastic piping from construction sites either lol.

As for the shutdown at least i got it out of my system and for good this time! went far too big without budget or time to keep it. You can't keep an addict down for long tho can you? :biggrin:

Coralgurl 10-25-2012 10:00 PM

Soooooooo, does that you mean you are coming back??:lol:

lastlight 10-25-2012 10:05 PM

I sold absolutely everything hobby related down to the toothbrush i used to clean powerheads with. What's the logical answer to that question? :lol:

JDigital 10-25-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 758299)
I sold absolutely everything hobby related down to the toothbrush i used to clean powerheads with. What's the logical answer to that question? :lol:

Except for the thing that holds water! :lol:

lastlight 10-25-2012 10:22 PM

No it's sold my buyer just happens to be a little slow prepping to take it lol.

lockrookie 10-26-2012 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 758299)
I sold absolutely everything hobby related down to the toothbrush i used to clean powerheads with. What's the logical answer to that question? :lol:

Logical answer would be no reality I think your up to something.


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