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SleepyPirate 10-02-2012 12:26 AM

Clown Fish have Ich how do I treat properly?
 
I have two clown fish one fish started to show symptoms of ich what I beleve it is anyways, it has white spots it started with few but now there is more as well I noticed the fish starting to fade in color. I have two pictures from over a week ago and a few more of him now. Can anyone help me out on treating it and properly identifying what is it.


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mrhasan 10-02-2012 12:35 AM

I think its brooklynella but experts should be able to confirm that. I am pretty sure they are wilds (since hosting nems) rights? If so, and by the looks of fading, it seems like brooklynella.

I am on the verge of loosing mine through this :( It sucks!

Nano 10-02-2012 12:58 AM

It's hard to see from the pics but if it is in fact ich, I've treated 3 fish with herbtana microbe lift successfully and no losses. Stay away from kordons ich attack as well as copper unless you have a tank for quarantine. IME and IMO herbtana is a great product.

George 10-02-2012 04:33 AM

I think it's marine ich. Brook kills fast, within days if not hours after you notice the symptoms. Other than dying quickly, fish with brook are also producing excess mucus and having cloudy eyes. Your fish don't have those symptoms from the pictures.
BTW, anemone can host captive breed clown.
To OP, are you willing to catch all fish and put them into a quarantine tank, treat the fish in QT and leave the display tank fish-less or 9+ weeks? That's the only way to get rid of ich in your DT. Other methods are just band-aid solutions.

gregzz4 10-02-2012 06:17 AM

Doesn't look like Marine Ich to me - the spots are too big
Nor does it look anything like brook or velvet

I'm going to guess it's burns from the nem

MMAX 10-02-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 751532)
Doesn't look like Marine Ich to me - the spots are too big
Nor does it look anything like brook or velvet

I'm going to guess it's burns from the nem

Don't know about that. I have 2 that host a hammer coral and have black marks from the stings. SleepyPirate, do you have any more info? Are they acting normal? Rubbing against anything and have normal appetites?

Enigma 10-02-2012 11:53 AM

Though one. I'm grasping at straws. What about some sort of fluke? What is their stool like? I have successfully treated for flukes with PraziPro in the past. They were on my green chromis.

daniella3d 10-04-2012 12:32 AM

Burn from nem? they are clownfish. I never seen clownfish get "burn" from nem. They get black spots yes, but that does not do them any harm.

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 751532)
Doesn't look like Marine Ich to me - the spots are too big
Nor does it look anything like brook or velvet

I'm going to guess it's burns from the nem


gregzz4 10-04-2012 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by daniella3d (Post 751990)
Burn from nem? they are clownfish. I never seen clownfish get "burn" from nem. They get black spots yes, but that does not do them any harm.

Just tryin' to help and threw out a though :smile:

Does anyone agree with me that it doesn't look like MI, Brook, or Velvet ?

And does anyone have a diagnosis ?

mrhasan 10-04-2012 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 751993)
Just tryin' to help and threw out a though :smile:

Does anyone agree with me that it doesn't look like MI, Brook, or Velvet ?

And does anyone have a diagnosis ?

I can give the best suggestion: take it to a marine biologist :)

SleepyPirate 10-06-2012 09:54 PM

Its been another week and there has been no change good or bad. Although the white spots look like whiteheads, I haven't been able to quarantine Iv seen no change besides the fact that it hides much more during feeding time, although that Iv noticed in both of them they used to come to top of the tank and almost hand feed now they both hide in anemone most of the time only venturing out briefily to grab a flake thats passing by. Does anyone know how long it takes to generally kill a fish if it did have what was previously mentioned for a diagnosis.

Wonder if it could be stress? I had a tunez fan exposed to air for a long period of time while i was working which was incredibly loud and when I discovered it that same fish was PURE white and totaly spooked.

daniella3d 10-06-2012 11:52 PM

Once they adopt an anemone, they bearely leave it. Mine eat very little and very rarely come out of their nem to eat.

After one week if they don't feel any worse, then it is not velvet, nor brook as these are fast killers. They will probably be just fine.

My male especially eats practically nothing. I always wonder how he manages to survive but he's been doing great and growing well for a year now.

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Originally Posted by SleepyPirate (Post 752721)
Its been another week and there has been no change good or bad. Although the white spots look like whiteheads, I haven't been able to quarantine Iv seen no change besides the fact that it hides much more during feeding time, although that Iv noticed in both of them they used to come to top of the tank and almost hand feed now they both hide in anemone most of the time only venturing out briefily to grab a flake thats passing by. Does anyone know how long it takes to generally kill a fish if it did have what was previously mentioned for a diagnosis.

Wonder if it could be stress? I had a tunez fan exposed to air for a long period of time while i was working which was incredibly loud and when I discovered it that same fish was PURE white and totaly spooked.



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