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martinmcnally 09-26-2012 07:48 PM

Going to MACNA 2012?
 
Anyone going to MACNA this weekend in Dallas?

Myka 09-26-2012 08:16 PM

I am. Flying out in 24.5 hours. :D

Are you going?

mseepman 09-26-2012 08:23 PM

Flying out in 17 hours! You joining us Martin?

Myka 09-26-2012 08:46 PM

What time you arrive Mark? I don't get there until 10 pm. I didn't want to catch the early flight...too many fish/dog things to do in the morning before I leave.

mseepman 09-26-2012 11:33 PM

I get in at 7pm. long day of travel...but nothing compared to last year!

martinmcnally 09-26-2012 11:50 PM

Well i'm supposed to be going haha. I dont have a flight yet.

Myka 09-27-2012 12:44 AM

^ Ouch! That's gonna be pricey! I was watching prices for awhile, and got my flight for $450. I often pay $450 to go to Kelowna and back.

Mark, yeah I'm not looking forward to the travel...I get motion sickness. Will be very ill by the time I take the 20 min van ride to the hotel after the puke-worthy flights. BARF. I leave at 3 pm and arrive there at 10 pm, so 7 hrs isn't too bad.

The Grizz 09-27-2012 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by martinmcnally (Post 750055)
Well i'm supposed to be going haha. I dont have a flight yet.

Lucky ba$tard, bring me back something shinny!

mseepman 09-27-2012 04:26 PM

I'm sitting in customs right now...joy of joys. Martin, if you get to Dallas...make sure you post on here so some of us can get together...at least for a beer.

Bblinks 09-27-2012 06:54 PM

you guys are so lucky! have fun and take lots of video please!!:wink:

Myka 09-27-2012 07:14 PM

Customs sucks Mark! I'm headed to the airport now...see ya tomorrow at the gate! :D

Myka 09-28-2012 02:20 AM

Stuck in Minneapolis for the night! I bet I'm still paying for the Dallas hotel tonight too...ugh.:mad:

intarsiabox 09-28-2012 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 750432)
Stuck in Minneapolis for the night! I bet I'm still paying for the Dallas hotel tonight too...ugh.:mad:

Connector flight get cancelled or was your plane late?

Myka 10-01-2012 11:30 PM

Well that was AWESOME!!!! I will definitely be going again next year. MACNA 2013 is in Miami, Florida at a sweet looking hotel/resort. There were 1400 people this year, and soooo many booths! I didn't even get to look at everything. On the last day when everyone was packing up you could get like 75% off on corals.

The Saturday night banquet dinner was done very well, and our speaker was JEAN-MICHEL COUSTEAU! His talk was at least 2 hours long where he showed new videos, old videos of his father, and talked a lot about preservation of the world's reefs. He was very impressed by the booths at MACNA and was really happy to see so many cultured corals and captive bred fish.

I came back with about 3 t-shirts, half a pound of various food samples, a MaxiJet 900, a bunch of Vertez media bags, and the entire AquaCraft supplement line which were all free from raffles or handouts.

I brought back 8 Zoa and Paly frags. I put them in my checked luggage with no heat packs, just wrapped them up in my clothing. Customs went through the suitcase en-route at some point, but they didn't inspect at customs in Saskatoon when I claimed my baggage and claimed that I had "non-CITES cultured coral in synthetic seawater mounted on synthetic plugs with no live rock". The frags were in bags for around 26 hours. I put a water bottle of hot water next to the frags overnight, but they didn't have any heat source in the cold plane cargo area. They have been in my tank for about an hour and half of them are open already.

I can't remember all the names (some didn't have names), but I did get Blue Agave and WOW Palys. Those are the only ones I remember. I will get pics once they all open.

I couldn't believe how many LEDs were at MACNA. I think Ushio was the only one there representing metal halides, and I think it was just Sunlight Supply and Aquatic Life representing T5s. There was also a huge array of LED styles, effects, prices, and colors. Some were very busy looking - what I call "the disco effect" which was awful to look at. This effect was seen in cheaper LEDs as well as some of the more expensive ones.

Sanjay Joshi had a great presentation on reef lighting. He's all for LEDs, but also pointed out that there is no "best" LED fixture, more that there are better options for different tanks. He also talked a lot about how PAR is measured, and that measuring PAR on LED light is very difficult and often inaccurate because LEDs often have as many hot spots as there are LEDs because LEDs are difficult to spread really evenly. So the spotlight effect will show very high PAR values in one spot where an inch away will be much lower. He talked about how depth of tank and fixture height plays a strong role in choosing complementary optics (and plays a significant role in the "disco effect"). From his presentation, my take from it was that Radions (and one other new brand I can't think of right now) are leading the way for PAR values. The PAR of these fixtures is so high that they can cause photo-inhibition in LPS (and even lower light) corals. From the data Sanjay provided it seems these high-PAR fixtures are best suited to SPS tanks.

Hans-Werner Balling spoke twice, once about basic balling method and one very in-depth talk about carbon dosing. There seemed to be a significant language barrier which made it a bit difficult to listen to, but his knowledge is outstanding. I felt bad for him when he didn't understand people's questions real well...it was tough for him. I only caught the carbon-dosing talk which was so in-depth he was talking about the atomic make up of different carbon sources. It was very interesting though.

Too much to tell all...!

The trip there was a disaster! The flight leaving Saskatoon was 2 hrs late because of network communication problems (several airlines were affected). This made me miss my connection in Minneapolis so I spent the night in the shoddy Ramada there (which Delta paid for), and had to get up at 5 am for the early flight to Dallas which was nice to get there fairly early. I was still a couple later than the grand opening which was annoying. Long story short, my luggage didn't arrive until Friday evening and after I still didn't have it at the hotel on Saturday morning I went to go to the airport to pick it up which cost me lack of sleep, $60, and 3 hrs. Very annoying.

I wish I would have taken more pictures of the Sheraton hotel, there were huge MACNA signs everywhere. It is a massive hotel with several towers of rooms and huge banquet/show rooms. None of my group left the hotel until Sunday evening when MACNA was over.

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Bblinks 10-02-2012 01:06 AM

Thanks for the awesome review! The show looked 10 times better then the one in Seattle. Seriously thinking about going next year. Very jealous...

intarsiabox 10-02-2012 02:03 AM

There were only 1400 attendees this year? I've never been but with the amount of vendors I always thought attendence would easily clear 10,000. I guess that's great for the people who do attend, no lines or trouble getting to vendor booths and presentations. Glad you had fun! Maybe they will bring it up to Vancouver one year.

Myka 10-02-2012 02:33 AM

Actually, now I think of it, I think the 1400 number was the number of people who went to the Saturday night banquet, not the total number of tickets sold. You need a really big local aquarium society in order to be able to have the manpower to host MACNA, I'm not sure Vancouver is big enough. There weren't many lines, other than lining up to get into the banquets, but the lines moved fast.

The second pic I posted that shows the vendor booths was taken early on Friday morning. There were waaaaay more people in attendance during Saturday and even more during the big main raffle on Sunday. On Sunday there were so many people that it was hard to move around.

This is really an amazing event, and I really wish that I would have given myself at least a few free days there. We heard the Dallas Aquarium is really fantastic, but we didn't have time to get there which I really regret. Plus, there are lots of sights to see in the area. Next year for Miami, I'm going to make a week trip. It is the sort of thing that could easily be a family vacation or just a couples vacation (leave the kids at home). It is a great event, and a lot of fun!

The pics of the resort in Miami for MACNA 2013 look AWESOME, plus it is earlier in the year Aug 29th to Sept 1st if I recall correctly.

mseepman 10-02-2012 03:13 PM

I have to say that MACNA 2012 was a lot of fun! Those are some great pics Mindy, none of mine really turned out. Please send me that pic of you and me with the Tanked crew!

As Myka said, LED's were the main focus of every 2nd booth. Some I'd heard of and many I had not. If nothing else, all that focus on the product will make the manufacturers we are used to hearing from work a little harder.

Like Myka, I came away with lots of goodies from the show. I actually won an AGE tank during the final raffle, but sold it on-site as I just couldn't see how to get it home. The corals I picked up all seem to be doing well too...but the bags leaked when customs must have roughed them up a bit. Thankfully they were all Zoas who can handle just being damp for a while.

This was my 2nd MACNA in a row and after seeing how amazing next year looks, I'm pretty sure I will be there too! One thing to note is that ChingChai whose tank seems to be famous all over the world will be a keynote speaker next year! Check it out. http://www.macna2013.com/


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