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globaldesigns 07-18-2012 08:21 PM

Just wondering....
 
Well, I was wondering why is that we as users to this forum have to post pricing for things we sell, but Sponsors do not. Never do you see any pricing, all you see when people ask about pricing is that they have been PM'd.

Why all this secrecy? Tell one tell all.

I think Sponsors should have to follow the same rules. You want to sell something, then post the price with the product your promoting.

jorjef 07-18-2012 08:27 PM

Ata boy :pop2:

Flash 07-18-2012 08:38 PM

i agree

Leah 07-18-2012 09:01 PM

Absolutely no...why should we pay the same, that is just silly business.

Dr_Hicks 07-18-2012 09:29 PM

I am not a sponsor "Yet" however do plan on being one soon; and I totally agree with you.

Double standard rules **** people off, well me anyhow :wink:

MarkoD 07-18-2012 10:47 PM

youre gonna get banned for that:lol:

Leah 07-18-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 732012)
youre gonna get banned for that:lol:

teeheeheehee! :biggrin: And so he should. :wink:

globaldesigns 07-18-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leah (Post 732014)
teeheeheehee! :biggrin: And so he should. :wink:

Leah behave, you trouble maker :mrgreen:

Nano 07-18-2012 11:10 PM

I remember a few vendors getting harassed a while back for 'outrageous" prices that they had posted for sale items, perhaps thats why they keep it quiet?

gobytron 07-18-2012 11:18 PM

Remember
Vendors PAY to be vendors here.

we do not.

Thats the biggest difference and the greatest reason why you shoudl just accept two tiered standards...

Aquattro 07-18-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 732022)
Remember
Vendors PAY to be vendors here.

we do not.

Thats the biggest difference and the greatest reason why you shoudl just accept two tiered standards...

If I had to guess, that would be my reasoning too..

Leah 07-18-2012 11:28 PM

LMAO! Someone "else" who shall remain nameless already stuck the spoon in the pot...I just gave it a few quick stirs.

shootingstar 07-18-2012 11:30 PM

I would be thrilled to see not only the vendors but the classified's split into local only vs willing/able to ship.

I don't understand why we have sponsors that are essentially local shops, just advertise to your local club's then, why put it on a national forum if you have no desire to do business with the vast majority of the membership.

For those of us that live in places with no LFS the vendor's list's and classified's on forums is our only way to get things. It is so depressing to go through dozens of ad's and not even have access to any of it.

At any price.

Leah 07-18-2012 11:30 PM

Being female and all... I would say it has more to do with what I charge you I may not charge someone else. :wink:

jorjef 07-18-2012 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leah (Post 732032)
I would say it has more to do with what I charge you I may not charge someone else. :wink:

So true, and nothing wrong with it. I do it where I work all day long, everyday. Customers that dump loads of orders with me get better pricing then the one time guy. Some argue that if you don't give the one time guy the same deal he won't turn into a big customer which is possible buy every sale needs to be priced on it's own, we publish nothing when it comes to pricing. It's up to the salesman's discretion.

My scenario is not the same as this situation... but I always wondered why the PM's when it comes to pricing... Don't the LFS in Calgary and Edmonton mark their tanks with prices. It's not like a PM will keep the pricing from the competition for any length of time..

intarsiabox 07-19-2012 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 732022)
Remember
Vendors PAY to be vendors here.

we do not.

Thats the biggest difference and the greatest reason why you shoudl just accept two tiered standards...

Remember

Vendors pay to be on Canreef only because they profit from it.

We typically lose money anytime we sell on Canreef, vendors don't.

If all the members had to pay to join there would be a drastic decline in membership followed by a drastic decline in vendors and the end of Canreef.

Canadian Tire pays to send me a flyer with prices on it because they want my business, it's no different for vendors on Canreef. The vendors all post prices in their stores that are not special deals to certain people so I have to agree, why not here? To be honest it turns me off from going to these stores in general because other retailers that don't advertise prices do so to get you talking to a salesman to try and oversell (rip you off) on something.

marie 07-19-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globaldesigns (Post 731967)
Well, I was wondering why is that we as users to this forum have to post pricing for things we sell, but Sponsors do not. Never do you see any pricing, all you see when people ask about pricing is that they have been PM'd.

Why all this secrecy? Tell one tell all.

I think Sponsors should have to follow the same rules. You want to sell something, then post the price with the product your promoting.

When you see the harassment some users get for supposedly overpricing their goods it's a wonder anyone wants to post prices......
besides it's easy to PM for a price and no one else needs to know if I want to pay a fortune for a coral or some tank bling :razz:

Dr_Hicks 07-19-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intarsiabox (Post 732053)
Remember

Vendors pay to be on Canreef only because they profit from it.

We typically lose money anytime we sell on Canreef, vendors don't.

If all the members had to pay to join there would be a drastic decline in membership followed by a drastic decline in vendors and the end of Canreef.

Canadian Tire pays to send me a flyer with prices on it because they want my business, it's no different for vendors on Canreef. The vendors all post prices in their stores that are not special deals to certain people so I have to agree, why not here? To be honest it turns me off from going to these stores in general because other retailers that don't advertise prices do so to get you talking to a salesman to try and oversell (rip you off) on something.

Thank you !

Hit the nail on the head.

globaldesigns 07-19-2012 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intarsiabox (Post 732053)
Remember

Vendors pay to be on Canreef only because they profit from it.

We typically lose money anytime we sell on Canreef, vendors don't.

If all the members had to pay to join there would be a drastic decline in membership followed by a drastic decline in vendors and the end of Canreef.
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Canadian Tire pays to send me a flyer with prices on it because they want my business, it's no different for vendors on Canreef. The vendors all post prices in their stores that are not special deals to certain people so I have to agree, why not here? To be honest it turns me off from going to these stores in general because other retailers that don't advertise prices do so to get you talking to a salesman to try and oversell (rip you off) on something.


Amen, you are so right.

Before anyone nails me to the cross. I am someone that worked and ran big box stores in the past. Millions in stock on average and 20-40 Staff at any one time. I never practiced this. Pricing everything kept the commissioned sales staff honest and was what customers expected. How is doing business online any different?

Why can't Canreef vendors post suggested retail. If they choose to discount to someone that orders more often, then they can choose to do so.

Snaz 07-19-2012 03:33 AM

What I don't see here is the vendors offering "5% off to all canreef members for the next 24 hours!" kind of specials.

The vendors here, with a couple of exceptions, do not seem to take advantage of the HUGE and interested audience they are paying for. For the most part the vendors display their banner ads and that is it. I hope they get their money's worth.

jorjef 07-19-2012 03:33 AM

In a retail environment where people come to you to buy it's hard to see or understand how people could say they got "ripped off". I would say more of an uneducated consumer. There are alternative buisnesses to buy from and if you don't like the price walk out the door... I sell in a wholesale environment with maybe 5 retail customers coming through he door a week, even then I have no power over them to make them buy from me. It's simple, they ask a price, I answer, they decide. So to "oversell or rip off" in the LFS arena seems pretty tough if you educate yourself before you even walk through the doors.

SteveConn 07-19-2012 03:34 AM

I am into a couple "high end" (ie: expensive) hobbies and I find it downright bizarre and annoying that vendors often don't show pricing either on the forum or in the store itself.
I don't like having to ask for the price because:

-I like to be independent in making purchase decisions when shopping
-I may be weighing several different items and don't want to be a pain in the butt asking for numerous prices
-There is something (that I perceive) as inherently underhanded in NO posted prices

I get that if I were a returning customer I may get better pricing at some point.. anyone who's been in this hobby for a while kinda gets that. I've spent thousands of dollars in the last year getting into this and I can say that most of that money has gone to vendors that DO post prices. I like honesty... and I'm sorry to say that I am left with an overall impression of less than that by the lack of transparency with local retailers that specialize in saltwater.

I don't mind paying more for quality, or good service..just wish I could walk into a store and not have to feel like I am begging for clarity!

Uhm, that's my 2 cents.. been ticking me off for the year I've been into salt!

Thank you to the vendors help to make this hobby more enjoyable by being upfront and helpful!

lockrookie 07-19-2012 04:31 AM

just my two cents.. it may be just to stop other vendors undercutting startng a price war more so to keep the playing field even.. now 10 buck frag is a 10 buck frag but led light fixtures skimmers pumps a whole different story. its hard enough for some of these stores to stay alive with normal business. than to have someone pm teh intrested buyer saying ill give you 10 bucks off what he says plus shipping.

yet i do agree that having to ask for a price can be annoying.. grates on my nerves like someone who starts telling you a great story then walks away with out telling you how it ends.. worse than all this is a vendors website that is never updated.. or unfinished... i like to creap on these sites to see what i may want n the future.. but the page is empty.

Dr_Hicks 07-19-2012 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockrookie (Post 732119)
just my two cents.. it may be just to stop other vendors undercutting startng a price war more so to keep the playing field even.. now 10 buck frag is a 10 buck frag but led light fixtures skimmers pumps a whole different story. its hard enough for some of these stores to stay alive with normal business. than to have someone pm teh intrested buyer saying ill give you 10 bucks off what he says plus shipping.

yet i do agree that having to ask for a price can be annoying.. grates on my nerves like someone who starts telling you a great story then walks away with out telling you how it ends.. worse than all this is a vendors website that is never updated.. or unfinished... i like to creap on these sites to see what i may want n the future.. but the page is empty.

Completely understandable from a livestock point of view, however I promise you a very large percentage of dry goods from salt, electronics, pumps, skimmers, food ect.... have something called MAP (minimum advertised price) this is done so the market is protected so everyone can make a little scratch and the large stores cannot snuff out the smaller ones.

I also agree asking for pricing can make or break my purchasing decision with a vendor.

reefwars 07-19-2012 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Hicks (Post 732125)
Completely understandable from a livestock point of view.

i think there should be pricing for livestock

Dr_Hicks 07-19-2012 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 732128)
i think there should be pricing for livestock

It would be convenient eh....

I appreciate online pricing for everything :mrgreen:


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