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reefcat 06-17-2012 09:52 PM

Stubborn Protein Film
 
So my tank has been going along fairly well lately, but one thing I can not seem to fix is a fairly thick protein film on the top of my 30g. I do 20% water changes every 2 weeks, my skimmer is skimming about a half a cup a week and i have one koralia nano powerhead running 9 hours a day along with the 205 canister. I know thats not a lot of flow but every time I try and add more, like another nano skimmer, or even a 750gph fish panick, all my corals (all lps) close up. Ive tried removing it manually with the net and it only goes away for a few hours. I would love to find a way to get rid of this..:biggrin:

Snaz 06-17-2012 10:11 PM

I don't know if this is your problem but I will describe my surface film problem and how I solved it.

The toothed overflow gate where the water exits the main display had "teeth" that were too long and as a consequence the water did not flow out via the surface of the display but just under it. The solution was to block off the lower half of the teeth with some flat plastic from a CD case which forced the water to truly leave the display from the surface. Beware this will raise the water level in your display.

Aquattro 06-17-2012 10:15 PM

I'm assuming you don't have a sump....

untamed 06-17-2012 10:38 PM

Sump or not...the problem is that the surface of the water needs to be drawn into the filter somehow. If that is impossible, aim a pump at the surface to agitate the surface and mix those organics back into the water.

chandigz 06-18-2012 01:52 AM

You could try the fluval surface skimmer attachment. I've used it for freshwater. It does what it is ment to do, skim the surface.

reefcat 06-21-2012 04:39 AM

Thank you for the feedback guys. I dont have have a sump, but i might be able to get the intake on my pump aimed at the surface somehow... also the suface skimmer is a good idea, any other ideas?

reefwars 06-21-2012 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by untamed (Post 724898)
Sump or not...the problem is that the surface of the water needs to be drawn into the filter somehow. If that is impossible, aim a pump at the surface to agitate the surface and mix those organics back into the water.



thats what my moneys on:)

waynemah 06-21-2012 05:28 AM

When I had my 90 gallon going, I attached a Tom Aquatics Aquarium Surface Skimmer to my filtration. Works really well once you get it tuned in.

gregzz4 06-21-2012 05:45 AM

Going back to what Snaz had to say, how does the water enter your current skimmer ?
Looking into what he did for his tank may be the direction you need to go with your current skimmer intake

Jakegr 06-21-2012 05:49 AM

You could add a surface skimming attachment to your skimmer or filter.

Once you solve the surface film problem, I strongly suggest you cut back on the tanks lighting schedule or you may burn some coral. I added a sump to my set up last year and lost a few corals since the surface film was quickly removed, causing light intensity under the water to suddenly increase.

reefcat 06-30-2012 11:39 PM

I tried aiming the pump at the surface with little success, the attachement is too long. The water enters my skimmer (since its a hang on) through a series of holes that are drilled into it, also through the bottom. I think I may get a surface skimmer, but how does that attach to my hang on skimmer (tunze 9002) or my canister filter?

daniella3d 07-01-2012 12:44 AM

I just bought a small surface skimmer from ebay, and intend to put it inside my skimmer intake so the skimmer will draw the water through the surface skimmer instead.

I have not tried it yet but I think it will work.

here is what I bought, much cheaper through ebay than from the Internet aquarium stores.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Oil-Free-Surf...item3a7680611b

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefcat (Post 727808)
I tried aiming the pump at the surface with little success, the attachement is too long. The water enters my skimmer (since its a hang on) through a series of holes that are drilled into it, also through the bottom. I think I may get a surface skimmer, but how does that attach to my hang on skimmer (tunze 9002) or my canister filter?


JohnnyReeftank 07-01-2012 05:14 AM

Ya I have the same problem on my 35g. Its a common problem if your tank doesn't have an overflow because the surface never really gets filtered. I tried the surface skimmer with my old skimmer but it doesn't really fit my newer one. I've noticed that it goes away as long as my skimmer cup doesn't overflow so I've been pretty diligent with emptying and cleaning it and it seems to appear a lot less often.

reefcat 07-02-2012 02:26 AM

So daniella could i hook that surface skimmer up to a 205 fluval canister filter?


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