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subman 04-11-2012 02:43 PM

frag tiles?
 
I've seen more and more frags on tiles and was wondering where to buy these tiles.

Thanks

tim the toolman 04-11-2012 03:09 PM

I'm pretty sure they are just the tile sheets that come all together from home depot and then the connecting fibers are cut to free up the tiles. Ya know the ttpe that are pre assembled for back splashesa and the like. Many sizes and colors to choose from

subman 04-11-2012 03:18 PM

that's what I was thinking but was worried about getting the wrong ones and leaching contaminants.

tim the toolman 04-11-2012 03:45 PM

Yah I would say you would want to stick with undyed natural stone options for sure. Then again they may have some all glass options as well. But stone would be my first pick esdpecially since it would probably come alive and coraline up eventually

subman 04-11-2012 04:00 PM

Its apparently called travertine tiles. look like natural stone tiles. I think I'm going to let them soak for a couple weeks in my toilet to soak the contaminates off.

Myka 04-11-2012 04:06 PM

Anywhere that sells tiles for your house. They are used for back splashes and shower floors and come in pre-assmbled sheets, just pull them off the netting. Ceramic and porcelain tiles are reef-safe. I wouldn't use any natural rocks though (slate, marble, granite, travertine, etc) because they could have metals in them.

sphelps 04-11-2012 04:21 PM

I have a ton of leftover scrap natural travertine left over from renos if anyone wants some. It's very porous and pure limestone, I don't believe it would have any metal in it. They are not filled with epoxy or grout like typical travertine either.

paddyob 04-11-2012 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 703859)
I've seen more and more frags on tiles and was wondering where to buy these tiles.

Thanks

Why? It might be easier for a seller, but usually sucks for the buyer.

They are unappealing to the eye, and personally I avoid them like the plague.

Why not just use rubble?

Just curious. I know everyone has views and personal likes. So again, curious.

reefermadness 04-11-2012 06:07 PM

I have used lots of large 4" tavertine in my tank...no problem. It is limestone (calcium carbonate) but its purity might be in question. Just try to buy the whitest tavertine you can find because colour is indication of purity.

As for the small 1"x1" tavertine or other tiles...they come with glue on the back that is not easily removed....I would be more worried about that glue. At least that is why I havent tried them.

subman 04-11-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paddyob (Post 703907)
Why? It might be easier for a seller, but usually sucks for the buyer.

They are unappealing to the eye, and personally I avoid them like the plague.

Why not just use rubble?

Just curious. I know everyone has views and personal likes. So again, curious.

Not selling any frags actually just going to build a frag rack with them. That being said I like tiles better than plugs or rubble. I usually remove them from what ever its growing on and attach it to my live rock direct. So the tile is easiest to remove from.

subman 04-11-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefermadness (Post 703914)
I have used lots of large 4" tavertine in my tank...no problem. It is limestone (calcium carbonate) but its purity might be in question. Just try to buy the whitest tavertine you can find because colour is indication of purity.

As for the small 1"x1" tavertine or other tiles...they come with glue on the back that is not easily removed....I would be more worried about that glue. At least that is why I havent tried them.

I boiled the 1" tiles and the glue came off very well. They are now sitting in a media bag in my toilet tank to give them a month long wash.

TimT 04-11-2012 09:21 PM

Unless the clay used to make the tile is Barium Free I would not put it into an aquarium. The guys that make the ceramic plugs use a Barium Free Clay as Barium is toxic.

Cheers,
Tim

RuGlu6 04-11-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 703882)
Its apparently called travertine tiles. look like natural stone tiles. I think I'm going to let them soak for a couple weeks in my toilet to soak the contaminates off.

If you soak in the toilet you might get some other contaminantes in. lol

subman 04-11-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimT (Post 703952)
Unless the clay used to make the tile is Barium Free I would not put it into an aquarium. The guys that make the ceramic plugs use a Barium Free Clay as Barium is toxic.

Cheers,
Tim

Hundreds of people on reef central use them and have had no problems.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RuGlu6 (Post 703953)
If you soak in the toilet you might get some other contaminantes in. lol

Think that will cause a nitrate spike?
:rofl:

BlueTang<3 04-11-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 703947)
Not selling any frags actually just going to build a frag rack with them. That being said I like tiles better than plugs or rubble. I usually remove them from what ever its growing on and attach it to my live rock direct. So the tile is easiest to remove from.

You can buy 25 frag tiles from bulk reef supply for 4 dollars

subman 04-11-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueTang<3 (Post 703957)
You can buy 25 frag tiles from bulk reef supply for 4 dollars

good to know thanks Wes.

toytech 04-11-2012 10:55 PM

i use the tumbled marble tiles form home depot there 1inchx1inch peel them off the sheet rub off the glue and good to go no need to soak for a month . There cheap like 8 bucks for 140 and i have an ocd frag tank and everything has to be in neat little rows with no spaces so plugs and rubble just dont work .Once the zoas grow out a bit you wont ever see the tiles anyway.

subman 04-12-2012 01:45 AM

Reading through this thread really sold me on the tiles.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2070455

He is using the tiles as a major portion of his live rock. Plus I think the Zoa's look really cool on the tiles (and his colony of Rasta's is Unbelievable!!)

Myka 04-12-2012 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 704061)
Reading through this thread really sold me on the tiles.

I've thought of spread the little 1" tiles on the bottom of my tank instead of sand. Would make Zoa fragging real easy. :D

subman 04-12-2012 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 704080)
I've thought of spread the little 1" tiles on the bottom of my tank instead of sand. Would make Zoa fragging real easy. :D

I am still considering this in my frag tank for rare Zoa's. Simple fragging!

mike31154 04-12-2012 03:10 AM

I've used a wet tile saw to cut standard ceramic tile into small pieces. The stuff on the mesh with glue tends to cost a lot more than a standard ceramic tile. Probably don't really need a wet tile saw either, just take a hammer to a tile & rinse off the dust when you're done. Voila, a bunch of irregularly sized, random frag tile pieces. Who says they have to be square? And you can always wrap a blob of epoxy putty with a tail around it to give it purchase on a frag rack.

I've also cut up a few chunks of marble since it's nice & heavy. Works fine & haven't had an issue with any toxicity (spelling?) to the best of my knowledge. If you search the interweb for info on marble constituents, you'll find it's >90% calcite or dolomite. Veins in marble are impurities, generally granite which could contain some nasties, but I doubt that a small chunk used as a frag plug is going to leach enough of anything into your tank to be harmful.


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